2024 “Tank” Thread

[HanSolo]

Enough of this myth. The Vegas 4th line in the 2018 Cup Final was Carrier-Bellemare-Nosek/Reaves. That is a typical 4th line. The 3rd line was mainly composed of Nosek/Carpenter/-Eakin-Tuch. And that version of Tuch was not a top 6 player at that point. So a below average 3rd line.

And don't even get me started on the D with Engelland in the top 4 and Sbisa being a nightly player.

The roster that team had was not good on paper so there is no need for this revisionist history that they were handed some stacked team. That team succeeded based on outworking people to go with just capturing lightning in a bottle and riding the wave.

Regardless there is no emulating Vegas because the biggest factor that allowed Vegas to do everything they did was having no long term cap constraints plus an owner willing to do anything to win. The former is not possible for a non expansion team. The latter we don't know if the Samueli's will do.

All I'd add is Vegas went all in on their plan. There's no more blue chip prospects to trade any any first rounder they have will be low. They gambled and won, but once some of the older guys start declining, they're going to be more of a bubble team to a team that misses the playoffs IMO. It was a super entertaining journey to a first cup but I think Vegas has two more good years left. I can't see Anaheim/the Samuelis directly replicating what Vegas did.

They already aren't anyway. This team is being built gradually around a growing youth core. Totally different situation

 

[Ducks DVM]

In keeping with the simians with heavy weaponry theme, this is my contribution to the thread.

 

[slippingsloth]

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In keeping with the simians with heavy weaponry theme, this is my contribution to the thread.

Is that a AI creation?

 

[SmokeyDuck]

Is that a AI creation?

no its a real photograph

 

[slippingsloth]

no its a real photograph

Lol. I just wanted to know whether to credit a hooman w photoshop skills or some chatgpt like overlord ;p

 

[Kalv]

No need to drag Harambe into this mess

 

[Frosted Tips]

Orangutank is the new team slogan.

 

[Kalv]

Orangutank is the new team slogan.

Fits CHI better. We're not THAT imposing

 

[Ducks DVM]

Is that a AI creation?

I asked Google, Google gave me that image.

All praise Google.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

I asked Google, Google gave me that image.

All praise Google.

Sounds like an AI response.

 

[tomd]

Looking like bottom 4 finish is pretty much in the bag...

 

[Rasp]

Looking like bottom 4 finish is pretty much in the bag...

And we havent even traded Henrique + whoever yet...

 

[tomd]

And we havent even traded Henrique + whoever yet...

I'm not exaggerating that much when I say that the Ducks could not win a game the rest of the year but still finish ahead of SJ and Chicago.

 

[Gliff]

The plus side is all the teams after us likely wont be selling major pieces and getting worse.
Columbus
Ottawa (Maybe Chychrun but I doubt it)
Buffalo
Arizona

The down side is San Jose and Chicago are terrible. I expect us to be #3 going into the lottery.

 

[lwvs84]

The plus side is all the teams after us likely wont be selling major pieces and getting worse.
Columbus
Ottawa (Maybe Chychrun but I doubt it)
Buffalo
Arizona

The down side is San Jose and Chicago are terrible. I expect us to be #3 going into the lottery.

So then who will be available at #4? We are dropping a spot like usual.

 

[KickHisAssZegrass]

So then who will be available at #4? We are dropping a spot like usual.

This draft is so up in the air after 1st I don't think anyone really knows who will be there. I'm sure we'll have a better idea end of season but it's going to be a fun first rd with all the unknowns.

 

[lwvs84]

This draft is so up in the air after 1st I don't think anyone really knows who will be there. I'm sure we'll have a better idea end of season but it's going to be a fun first rd with all the unknowns.

Yeah, seriously thinking about going to the draft this year for my bachelor party. It's the last one that will be in person, right? Could be a fun few days, since it'll be in Vegas.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

The plus side is all the teams after us likely wont be selling major pieces and getting worse.
Columbus
Ottawa (Maybe Chychrun but I doubt it)
Buffalo
Arizona

The down side is San Jose and Chicago are terrible. I expect us to be #3 going into the lottery.

Maybe karma can happen and we win the lottery to #1 from #3 spot from the Blackhawks?

 

[gunnergunther]

Yeah, seriously thinking about going to the draft this year for my bachelor party. It's the last one that will be in person, right? Could be a fun few days, since it'll be in Vegas.

I think they're just doing away with the teams being on the floor. The drafts will still be done in person, at least for the 1st round I assume. Its just that the team managements will be in their command rooms back home, like in the NFL.

 

[Gliff]

How is it possible that the bottom 3 teams are in top 6 for hardest strength of schedule remaining. Crazy schedule stuff.

Fun fact, the Ducks won 9 games in the first 15 games of the year. Since then they have gone 9-26-2, a 44 point pace over an 82 games season.

 

[KelVarnsen]

How is it possible that the bottom 3 teams are in top 6 for hardest strength of schedule remaining. Crazy schedule stuff.

Fun fact, the Ducks won 9 games in the first 15 games of the year. Since then they have gone 9-26-2, a 44 point pace over an 82 games season.

So if it weren't for the hot streak earlier in the season, the Ducks are actually worse than last season?

That doesn't seem ideal.

 

[Gliff]

So if it weren't for the hot streak earlier in the season, the Ducks are actually worse than last season?

That doesn't seem ideal.

This team is forsure better then last year's team. Injuries have killed them this year compared to last year.

 

[The Duck Knight]

I think they're just doing away with the teams being on the floor. The drafts will still be done in person, at least for the 1st round I assume. Its just that the team managements will be in their command rooms back home, like in the NFL.

I don't remember the source but what I read was they are doing away with in person altogether. So it will be like the Drsydale draft.

Stupid IMO because for trade purposes it's good to have all the GM's together.

 

[Emerald Duck]

Stupid IMO because for trade purposes it's good to have all the GM's together.

There's pros and cons to having all the GMs together. Sometimes you don't want other teams rubbernecking to see who is talking with whom. The GM is not always the sole decision maker (though he may have the final say) and it's difficult to consult with your staff openly in the midst of the draft. The privacy of a team's war room may facilitate more discussions for deals that just "pop up" live during the draft.

 

[Gliff]

I don't remember the source but what I read was they are doing away with in person altogether. So it will be like the Drsydale draft.

Stupid IMO because for trade purposes it's good to have all the GM's together.

No it will be decentralized like the NFL. Players and the league will be an a location, but the team officials will do the draft from their offices.