2023 NHL Draft situation

[EbonyRaptor]

He is also the idiot who said, "if you can't skate, you cannot play for the Hawks" nonsense.

With that said, goalies in the draft = HS QB recruit. You also have to draft a goalie, just like you always have to recruit a QB in every recruiting cycle.

I saw the interview and he was emphasizing the premium they put on skating. He is the head cheese of scouting so maybe he would think you're the idiot for calling him an idiot for voicing what attribute will separate a player the Hawks draft from a player they pass on.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

I saw the interview and he was emphasizing the premium they put on skating. He is the head cheese of scouting so maybe he would think you're the idiot for calling him an idiot for voicing what attribute will separate a player the Hawks draft from a player they pass on.

I think that's very limited in general.

Two players of similar skill but ones a better skater of course take the better skater.

But a player who is above offensively but is a meh skater....think you take the better offensive guy and hope he gets a bit better in the skating department which, at 18 years old is asking alot.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

I think that's very limited in general.

Two players of similar skill but ones a better skater of course take the better skater.

But a player who is above offensively but is a meh skater....think you take the better offensive guy and hope he gets a bit better in the skating department which, at 18 years old is asking alot.

There's probably some nuance involved plus "can't skate" is obviously not literal so open to subjectivity to be sure.

But, I'm just a shleb on an internet hockey blog - Doneghey is a professional employed by the Hawks at the highest level to evaluate talent - so I'm going to go ahead and believe what he says.

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

I'm sure there will be trade movement come draft day, but if I do a mock with the current picks the Hawks have, here's what I'd do:

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Picks​	Name​	Position​	Team​
1st Round, Pick 1​	Connor Bedard​	Center​	Regina Pats​
1st Round, Pick 19 (via Tampa Bay)​	Brayden Yager​	Center​	Moose Jaw Warriors​
2nd Round, Pick 35​	Riley Heidt​	Center​	Prince George Cougars​
2nd Round, Pick 44 (via Ottawa)​	Nick Lardis​	LW​	Hamilton Bulldogs​
2nd Round, Pick 51 (via Tampa Bay)​	Gracyn Sawchyn​	Center​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
2nd Round, Pick 55 (via NYR)​	Jayden Perron​	RW​	Chicago Steel​
3rd Round, Pick 67​	Aram Minnetian​	RHD​	Boston College​
3rd Round, Pick 93 (via Dallas)​	Aydar Suniev​	LW​	Penticton Vees​
4th Round, Pick 99​	Mazden Leslie​	RHD​	Vancouver Giants​
5th Round, Pick 131​	Thomas Milic​	Goaltender​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
7th Round, Pick 195​	Hannes Hellberg​	RW​	Leksands IF J20​

 

[Chuck Testa]

I'm sure there will be trade movement come draft day, but if I do a mock with the current picks the Hawks have, here's what I'd do:

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Picks​	Name​	Position​	Team​
1st Round, Pick 1​	Connor Bedard​	Center​	Regina Pats​
1st Round, Pick 19 (via Tampa Bay)​	Brayden Yager​	Center​	Moose Jaw Warriors​
2nd Round, Pick 35​	Riley Heidt​	Center​	Prince George Cougars​
2nd Round, Pick 44 (via Ottawa)​	Nick Lardis​	LW​	Hamilton Bulldogs​
2nd Round, Pick 51 (via Tampa Bay)​	Gracyn Sawchyn​	Center​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
2nd Round, Pick 55 (via NYR)​	Jayden Perron​	RW​	Chicago Steel​
3rd Round, Pick 67​	Aram Minnetian​	RHD​	Boston College​
3rd Round, Pick 93 (via Dallas)​	Aydar Suniev​	LW​	Penticton Vees​
4th Round, Pick 99​	Mazden Leslie​	RHD​	Vancouver Giants​
5th Round, Pick 131​	Thomas Milic​	Goaltender​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
7th Round, Pick 195​	Hannes Hellberg​	RW​	Leksands IF J20​

If that's how the draft shakes out for the Hawks I would be pleasantly surprised. Great job.

 

[clydesdale line]

I'm sure there will be trade movement come draft day, but if I do a mock with the current picks the Hawks have, here's what I'd do:

​

Picks​	Name​	Position​	Team​
1st Round, Pick 1​	Connor Bedard​	Center​	Regina Pats​
1st Round, Pick 19 (via Tampa Bay)​	Brayden Yager​	Center​	Moose Jaw Warriors​
2nd Round, Pick 35​	Riley Heidt​	Center​	Prince George Cougars​
2nd Round, Pick 44 (via Ottawa)​	Nick Lardis​	LW​	Hamilton Bulldogs​
2nd Round, Pick 51 (via Tampa Bay)​	Gracyn Sawchyn​	Center​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
2nd Round, Pick 55 (via NYR)​	Jayden Perron​	RW​	Chicago Steel​
3rd Round, Pick 67​	Aram Minnetian​	RHD​	Boston College​
3rd Round, Pick 93 (via Dallas)​	Aydar Suniev​	LW​	Penticton Vees​
4th Round, Pick 99​	Mazden Leslie​	RHD​	Vancouver Giants​
5th Round, Pick 131​	Thomas Milic​	Goaltender​	Seattle Thunderbirds​
7th Round, Pick 195​	Hannes Hellberg​	RW​	Leksands IF J20​

Other than the lack of size the first 6 picks (minus Yager, though he badly needs to fill out), I like it. I'm a big Nick Lardis guy. Kid really developed rapidly after the trade and he put up some incredible numbers at the combine. And obviously Yager has been my draft crush for a while now.

 

[coolhand]

I wonder who would win between a team of Stalbergs and a team of Stromes. A battle of the incomplete 3rd liners

At least Strome could finish. Stallberg couldn't hit the net even on a breakaway

 

[Putt Pirate]

TSN is doing their mock drafty at 11:30 EST today. That will be interesting.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Certain this has been discussed ad nauseum but is there any way the hawks move up and grab leonard? He could be a difference maker.

That would be amazing but I think he probably goes around #7.
It would probably cost a lot to move up that far.

 

[BuddyTheGoon]

I saw the interview and he was emphasizing the premium they put on skating. He is the head cheese of scouting so maybe he would think you're the idiot for calling him an idiot for voicing what attribute will separate a player the Hawks draft from a player they pass on.

Head cheese. Eeeeeew.

 

[MicronMega]

Based on Bob MacKenzie's Rankings the Hawks could end up with:

1-Bedard
19-But, Sale, Stenberg or Shimashev (one of)
35-Strammel, Edstrom, Haltunen, Strbak (one of)
44-Dvorak, Nelson, Kiiskanen
51-Molgaard, Cowan, Nilsson
55-Myatovic, Cataford, Bjarnason, Gajan
67-Kantanserov, Misak, Suniev
93-Cleveland, Nehring
99-Gardiner, Fortescue, Fowler

BOLD = My Picks

 

[clydesdale line]

TSN is doing their mock drafty at 11:30 EST today. That will be interesting.

Any updates?

 

[EddieTheEagle]

Any updates?

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Carlsson
4. Michkov
5. Smith
6. Wood
7. Leoaned
8. Reinbacher
9. Barlow
10. Sandin Pellikka
11. Willander
12. Dvorsky
13. Benson
14. Yager
15. Perreault
16. Danielson
17. Stenberg
18. Moore
19. Honzek
20. Ritchie
21. Sale
22. Gauthier
23. But
24. Simashev
25. Edstrom
26. Hrabal
27. Haltunen
28. Musty
29. Bonk
30. Lindstein
31. Wahlberg
32. Strbak

 

[clydesdale line]

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Carlsson
4. Michkov
5. Smith
6. Wood
7. Leoaned
8. Reinbacher
9. Barlow
10. Sandin Pellikka
11. Willander
12. Dvorsky
13. Benson
14. Yager
15. Perreault
16. Danielson
17. Stenberg
18. Moore
19. Honzek
20. Ritchie
21. Sale
22. Gauthier
23. But
24. Simashev
25. Edstrom
26. Hrabal
27. Haltunen
28. Musty
29. Bonk
30. Lindstein
31. Wahlberg
32. Strbak

I would be very happy if Honzek was available at 19.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Based on Bob MacKenzie's Rankings the Hawks could end up with:

1-Bedard
19-But, Sale, Stenberg or Shimashev (one of)
35-Strammel, Edstrom, Haltunen, Strbak (one of)
44-Dvorak, Nelson, Kiiskanen
51-Molgaard, Cowan, Nilsson
55-Myatovic, Cataford, Bjarnason, Gajan
67-Kantanserov, Misak, Suniev
93-Cleveland, Nehring
99-Gardiner, Fortescue, Fowler

BOLD = My Picks

Molgaard was lower on Bob's list than I was expecting, but it's good for us.

I'd really like for him to be one of our 2nd round selections.

By all accounts, he seems to have very good work ethic and absorbs information like a sponge. I could see him thriving under Richardson.

Just needs to get stronger and put on weight, but he's not soft nor a perimeter player so it bodes well for his future.

 

[clydesdale line]

Hawks/Leafs draft trade part deux (post Dubas) perhaps? On and it's obvious the Caps want Michkov.

 

[Chuck Testa]

Hawks/Leafs draft trade part deux (post Dubas) perhaps? On and it's obvious the Caps want Michkov.

If the Caps get Michkov I wonder if you could potentially see Ovi making a phone call his team in the KHL and getting him out of that contract post-haste.

 

[u2wojo]

I would be very happy if Honzek was available at 19.

It would hard to be unhappy for sure. I would be disappointed though that Danielson lasted to 16 and we just missed on him by a couple spots. I got to think if the board fell like this mock we would make a very favorable to Pitts trade to flip picks and take Granlund to get our choice of Yager or Danielson at 14

 

[u2wojo]

Hawks/Leafs draft trade part deux (post Dubas) perhaps? On and it's obvious the Caps want Michkov.

Murphy for Murray, Timmins, & #28...who adds?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Murphy for Murray, Timmins, & #28...who adds?

Really don’t think any add is needed on either side

 

[Drumman44]

Who would you grab at 14th overall if we managed to trade up for Pittsburgh's pick?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Who would you grab at 14th overall if we managed to trade up for Pittsburgh's pick?

Oliver Moore or Nate Danielson if either are there

 

[Larmer83]

Who would you grab at 14th overall if we managed to trade up for Pittsburgh's pick?

Oliver Moore, if available.

 

[u2wojo]

Who would you grab at 14th overall if we managed to trade up for Pittsburgh's pick?

Based on that mock....I would take Danielson.

 

[Cubs2024WSChamps]

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Carlsson
4. Michkov
5. Smith
6. Wood
7. Leoaned
8. Reinbacher
9. Barlow
10. Sandin Pellikka
11. Willander
12. Dvorsky
13. Benson
14. Yager
15. Perreault
16. Danielson
17. Stenberg
18. Moore
19. Honzek
20. Ritchie
21. Sale
22. Gauthier
23. But
24. Simashev
25. Edstrom
26. Hrabal
27. Haltunen
28. Musty
29. Bonk
30. Lindstein
31. Wahlberg
32. Strbak

Wood at 6? Did Button make that pick?

Barlow at 9?

Benson out the top 10?

If Benson falls out the top ten if Davidson isn't moving up he should be slapped in the face with somebody yelling "wake up" with an awful case of halitosis an inch away from him.

The top three defenseman are all reaches that high and if Moore is there at 18 I cannot see Davidson not trading up one spot to get him.

If you could walk away with Bedard, Moore, Cristall at 35, and Nelson at the next this would be a generational draft.