Felonious Python
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Speculation: 2023-2024 General Lightning Discussion - Part 3
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FinnLightning26
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Probably wouldn't even be a Lightning fan without St. Louis. Well, aside from Khabibulin. St. Louis was probably my favourite player at the time and I thought Khabibulin had a cool mask
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ccman68
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mackinnon with 2 points so far.. oilers playing an ahl team to try and get him the ross
Stammertime91
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awesome to see MacKinnon has two points as the game is 12 minutes in. Now a powerplay, he's sooooo good isn't he? Damn. Amazing!
Point21
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i will piss myself laughing if Mack gets 5 more points tonight
StammerHammer
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Edmonton tried but I think it was becoming to obvious.
Crazy to think that the Lightning win the 2013 Draft Lottery if they just lose 1 more game, putting them in position to draft MacKinnon (Jones, Barkov, Drouin were all pretty close though as well).
Major4Boarding
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Some of us wear our tours of service medals proudly
Losing the 2001 draft lottery to f***ing Atlanta and losing out on Kolvachuk/Spezza and getting Svitov instead. Still stings.
Once Richards arrived in 2000, things got a hell of a lot easier to stomach. 98-00 was absolutely f***ing brutal though.
Getting Kovalchuk means no Stamkos & Hedman. Kovalchuk might mean no 2004 Cup and thus unlikely shot at the 2020 and 2021 Cup for the Lightning. Previous failures/misfortune set the events in motion for future successes. Butterfly effect is strong.
RussianGuyovich
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i mean, yeah, maybe. but he's right, early aughts drafting was abysmal. shit, we didn't get good at drafting until we had no choice with stammer and hedman.
Yeah I find it hard to relitigate past drafts and trades immediately after the cups we won because of that. Who's to say it wouldn't have pushed us into the territory of being too good to tank but not good enough to win the cup because of guys eating cap and missing out on our other stars... Tough question. But it sure would've made the team a lot easier to watch if we weren't quite so abysmal at acquiring talent back then.
The post cup dismantling would have happened regardless of who we drafted or how we did thanks to the CBA and internal cap. Since we are talking about the butterfly effect though, maybe we end up with the #1 pick in 2015 and we have McDavid-Kucherov right now.
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Point21
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Those moves had nothing to do with saving the team or winning the Cup. Signing Andreychuk and ripping the C of Vinny was what saved this franchise from being Atlanta or Arizona. That's why he has a statue out front and not that bum Lecavalier.
Nashville dealt us Jeannot and went out and picked up O'Reilly. Now they are a playoff team
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I know this was tongue in cheek but taking the captaincy away from Lecavalier was the best thing that ever happened for his career, and a big reason why I didn't like seeing Stamkos with the "C". Injuries obviously hurt his production but I believe the extra burden of captaincy probably hurt as well.
Moving forward I will always want the captaincy to be handed to a bottom line plug.
Stammertime91
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Stelio Kontos
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Torts had to turn Vinny into a team player and two way player for.the lightning to win!
Mcd should be roughly thr same amount of salary as jeannot, sheary, and one or two of fleury, Perbix, and dehann. That trade broke our solid defense and lead to the zero depth spiral on defense.+ McDounagh
The Gongshow
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Who are the top RFA on defense this summer? That should be a top priority for the retool. Move some pieces, w.e just get D depth that isn't a rotating door of scrub 6/7 dman
