NHL Entry Draft 2020 NHL Draft Discussion - Part IX

[aragorn]

Dude.. You were all over Crouse in his draft year.

2015 NHL Entry Draft

2015 NHL Entry Draft

Obviously some scouts agreed with you but you advocated picking him above a player like Konecny, who has become a 1st line talent.

I was, I was really hoping he could turn into a Tom Wilson type of forward, but it never materialized although he's a decent 4th line enforcer. I still don't like Konecny.

My point was though with bigger bodies that if they don't work out in the top six can sometimes work out in the bottom six so it's not a complete loss of a pick. Crouse for example, has turned into a decent 4th line enforcer while a smaller player might not fit into the bottom six if they can't break into the top six either.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Hearing Steve Lloyd and Jakubec stan Jake Sanderson on TSN1200 this morning, going as far as call him a potential #3 pick, makes me worried the Sens are planning on picking him with their first pick no matter where it falls. Ugh.

 

[Que]

Hearing Steve Lloyd and Jakubec stan Jake Sanderson on TSN1200 this morning, going as far as call him a potential #3 pick, makes me worried the Sens are planning on picking him with their first pick no matter where it falls. Ugh.

I already bought a Sanderson and Lundell Senators jersey.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

I already bought a Sanderson and Lundell Senators jersey.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

We don't want superstar players that will cost too much so we'll go with good players that will be much cheaper in the future like Sanderson and Lundell !!! lol

 

[SPF6ty9]

Hearing Steve Lloyd and Jakubec stan Jake Sanderson on TSN1200 this morning, going as far as call him a potential #3 pick, makes me worried the Sens are planning on picking him with their first pick no matter where it falls. Ugh.

Sanderson at 3!?



I don't think we take him. Lot's of doom and gloom that we will, I guess people psyching themselves down. If we take him at 5 or 6 I'll trust the scouts and their hours of analysis over my youtube highlight viewings. 3 sounds like it would be ridiculous though, probably click bait in spoken form or trying to project one of the teams behind us making a reach for need.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Every year there’s a player who people hate on for no reason other than they don’t know much about him other that the statsheet. If they pick Sanderson it would likely be like Tkachuk all over again, blind outrage for no reason.

 

[BondraTime]

Sanderson wasn’t one of the guys everyone was following since the start of the season when we knew we would be picking atop the order, myself included, of course some people aren’t going to be happy to hear he’s jumped in front of the guys we were following since last U-18. Laf, Byfield, the Swedes, Perfetti, Rossi, Lundell, Drysdale have all been in the forefront of the minds of Sens fans for over a year, then Stutzle jumps in October. Many have their hearts set on these guys, and for good reason; but aren’t looking at guys outside that grouping.

Sanderson absolutely belongs in the group that could be picked in the top range, but he’s going to receive the most backlash because he’s the only guy that wasn’t in that grouping since the start of the year and is the guy people were paying the least attention to, if any.

 

[Agent Zub]

We don't want superstar players that will cost too much so we'll go with good players that will be much cheaper in the future like Sanderson and Lundell !!! lol

you're joking but with some of these picks they make, it makes you think.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Man if the Isles lose against Florida in the play-in series, their pick should be in the 12-15 range and could allow us to trade up into the top 10 or be in a position to draft a guy like Quinn/Lundell/Jarvis.

In that scenario I wonder if we could package the 12th-15th pick with the 33rd pick and another 2nd to jump into the top 8. Definitely would be happy ending up with Sanderson with our 3rd 1st.

Could end day 1 with 3 excellent prospects that would be legitimate top 10 picks in most drafts. Dream scenario.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I wonder if the draft lottery will be re-scheduled again if there are any doubts about the league's ability to put on the post season with the recent news of the Lightning shutting down their training camp, and Matthews testing positive.

 

[BondraTime]

I wonder if the draft lottery will be re-scheduled again if there are any doubts about the league's ability to put on the post season with the recent news of the Lightning shutting down their training camp, and Matthews testing positive.

They’d need to redo the whole draft lottery parameters if they are not able to go through with the playoffs, that would take a long time to figure out.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Man if the Isles lose against Florida in the play-in series, their pick should be in the 12-15 range and could allow us to trade up into the top 10 or be in a position to draft a guy like Quinn/Lundell/Jarvis.

In that scenario I wonder if we could package the 12th-15th pick with the 33rd pick and another 2nd to jump into the top 8. Definitely would be happy ending up with Sanderson with our 3rd 1st.

Could end day 1 with 3 excellent prospects that would be legitimate top 10 picks in most drafts. Dream scenario.

This is exactly what I think we should be doing. Even if the Isles pick ends at 21 we should be looking to move up into the 13-15 range if we can. Someone like Lundell, Quinn, Jarvis or even Zary will be available there.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

They’d need to redo the whole draft lottery parameters if they are not able to go through with the playoffs, that would take a long time to figure out.

Yes, they'd need to come up with a new system, since the previous system was contingent on some teams being rewarded with lottery spots as compensation for not making the "playoffs".

I would guess it would be a weighted 31 team lottery, where each team can only fall max 3 spots.

All I'm saying, is I wonder if they delay the draft lottery as a just in case move. Even if the playoffs aren't cancelled by the end of the month, there's a chance with a second wave that they may not be able to play or finish them. Doing a lottery before the league actually knows whether the playoffs would happen could complicate things.

 

[Agent Zub]

I feel like the season is gonna get cancelled. wave 2 folks

 

[HSF]

I feel like the season is gonna get cancelled. wave 2 folks

America is still in wave 1

 

[HSF]

I wonder if the draft lottery will be re-scheduled again if there are any doubts about the league's ability to put on the post season with the recent news of the Lightning shutting down their training camp, and Matthews testing positive.

If anything they will move the draft up

 

[Senscore]

Got a feeling we should be pushing for this lottery to happen ASAP. It can only get worse for us if the playoffs isn't happening.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

What did we expect? Of course players and staff from all sports were going to test positive owners and athletes couldn't have been this naive when discussing plans to comeback.

Close up shop for cleaning and get back at it.

 

[Ouroboros]

I'm not concerned about the season not being completed. European football league re-started, dealt with their positive cases and managed to keep rolling. So it can be done.

Might not hurt for teams and staff to be under tight isolation protocols right now though - camps are due to open in 3 weeks.

 

[Six Assets]

RANK	PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	DOB	HEIGHT	WEIGHT	POS
1	LAFRENIERE, ALEXIS	RIMOUSKI	QMJHL	11-Oct-2001	6' 1.0"	196 lbs *	LW
2	STUTZLE, TIM	MANNHEIM	GERMANY	15-Jan-2002	6' 1.0"	187 lbs	LW
3	BYFIELD, QUINTON	SUDBURY	OHL	19-Aug-2002	6' 4.0"	215 lbs *	C
4	PERFETTI, COLE	SAGINAW	OHL	01-Jan-2002	5' 10.25"	177 lbs *	C
5	SANDERSON, JAKE	USA U-18	NTDP	08-Jul-2002	6' 1.25"	186 lbs *	D
6	QUINN, JACK	OTTAWA	OHL	19-Sep-2001	6' 0.0"	179 lbs *	RW
7	JARVIS, SETH	PORTLAND	WHL	01-Feb-2002	5' 9.5"	179 lbs *	C
8	RAYMOND, LUCAS	FROLUNDA	SWEDEN	28-Mar-2002	5' 11.0"	170 lbs	LW
9	ROSSI, MARCO	OTTAWA	OHL	23-Sep-2001	5' 8.75"	183 lbs *	C
10	HOLTZ, ALEXANDER	DJURGARDEN	SWEDEN	23-Jan-2002	5' 11.5"	192 lbs *	RW
11	SCHNEIDER, BRADEN	BRANDON	WHL	20-Sep-2001	6' 2.25"	202 lbs *	D
12	DRYSDALE, JAMIE	ERIE	OHL	08-Apr-2002	5' 11.0"	175 lbs *	D

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[Hale The Villain]

Man I like hockeyprospect.com a lot but some of those player rankings are really off IMO.

If Drysdale is outside of your top 10 and Lundell is outside of your top 20 give your head a shake.

On a positive note, I like the Evangelista ranking. Really smart and productive player that should explode offensively when he gets PP time.

 

[Bileur]

Ridly Greig at 14 is also quite a shocker.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

What did we expect? Of course players and staff from all sports were going to test positive owners and athletes couldn't have been this naive when discussing plans to comeback.

Close up shop for cleaning and get back at it.

What I'm thinking is the Lightning should have thought twice about having their training facilities open in f-ing FLORIDA and move it to another, less risky state. I'm also guessing Matthews must not have been following any recommendations to protect himself knowing the situation he's in. Like, you're a millionaire athlete in a very covid-heavy state....maybe don't be hanging around a bunch of people?

Bothers me that any player and team heading to the playoffs were not extremely careful up to now. They should all have been doing what all of us in bigger cities have been doing which is self-quarantining. Now we're all going to pay by getting zero hockey until 2021.

 

[Masked]

Sanderson wasn’t one of the guys everyone was following since the start of the season when we knew we would be picking atop the order, myself included, of course some people aren’t going to be happy to hear he’s jumped in front of the guys we were following since last U-18. Laf, Byfield, the Swedes, Perfetti, Rossi, Lundell, Drysdale have all been in the forefront of the minds of Sens fans for over a year, then Stutzle jumps in October. Many have their hearts set on these guys, and for good reason; but aren’t looking at guys outside that grouping.

Sanderson absolutely belongs in the group that could be picked in the top range, but he’s going to receive the most backlash because he’s the only guy that wasn’t in that grouping since the start of the year and is the guy people were paying the least attention to, if any.

Kind of like Zibanejad in 2011.