2019-2020 expected roster volume 7

[AmericanDream]

I, along with everyone else on this board, hope they have the balls to sit Seabrook. I don't think they do.

I think they have put him on the spot and can now rotate him at the least from #6 to press box..De Haan and Maatta here pretty much means Boqvist isn't here next year and Joker has a few months to shine until De Haan is healthy..

Keith - Joker
De Haan - Gus
Maatta - Murphy
Seabs

 

[Hawkaholic]

well i am a self proclaim SB doubter, i will say this. this trade was done by someone other than SB in the Bhawks FO.

and i am sticking to it.

You should just stop posting then.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I think they have put him on the spot and can now rotate him at the least from #6 to press box..De Haan and Maatta here pretty much means Boqvist isn't here next year and Joker has a few months to shine until De Haan is healthy..

Keith - Joker
De Haan - Gus
Maatta - Murphy
Seabs

Koekkoek looked good and IMO is fine to play for the couple months CDH is out

Trade Gus for forward to improve team

Keith-Murphy
Maatta-Jokiharju
Koekkoek-Seabrook (CDH slots into spot next to Seabs when he is back)
Dahlstrom

 

[AmericanDream]

Koekkoek looked good and IMO is fine to play for the couple months CDH is out

Trade Gus for forward to improve team

Keith-Murphy
Maatta-Jokiharju
Koekkoek-Seabrook (CDH slots into spot next to Seabs when he is back)
Dahlstrom

STOP WITH THE TRADING OF GUS, that defense can't move the f***ing puck without him...blah!!! Bowman shored up the defensive guys, but 100% needs to keep Gus here until the kids can step in and replace him because not one of those guys can run the point for the power play or come close to the transition game that Gus allowed for us..

 

[RememberTheRoar]

well i am a self proclaim SB doubter, i will say this. this trade was done by someone other than SB in the Bhawks FO.

and i am sticking to it.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

STOP WITH THE TRADING OF GUS, that defense can't move the ****ing puck without him...blah!!! Bowman shored up the defensive guys, but 100% needs to keep Gus here until the kids can step in and replace him because not one of those guys can run the point for the power play or come close to the transition game that Gus allowed for us..

Blocking Joker from roster isn't any better for Hawks and would be terrible

 

[AmericanDream]

Blocking Joker from roster isn't any better for Hawks and would be terrible

Gus doesn't block Joker, you understand that right?

 

[ClydeLee]

The desire to trade Gus should only go along if you're pushing Boqvist onto the roster. The offensive and pp options are dreadful in other scenarios

 

[wahsnairb]

Kubalik - Toews - Kane
Debrincat - Strome - Donskoi (Dzingel)
Saad - AA (Dach) - Sikura
Saalera (Caggiula) - Kampf - Perlini
Caggiula (Saalera)

Keith - Murphy
Maatta - Gus
De Haan - Jokiharju
Seabrook (I wish)
Koekkoek

Crawford
Delia

looks really good to me, but obviously I am a fan and want it to look good.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Gus doesn't block Joker, you understand that right?

I don't see Seabrook as a #7/8 as realistic so yes it would

Keith-Murphy
Maatta-Joker
Gus-Seabrook
Koekkoek-Dahlstrom

You would have problem when CDH is ready

 

[Toews2Bickell]

put some respect on Gus name

 

[Section88]

I think Seabrook just needs to be sat for the entire season
You can love and respect him for what he's done for us but at this point he's doing nothing but holding the team back.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Maybe they add Joker to a deal for a young promising forward.

 

[LDF]

I, along with everyone else on this board, hope they have the balls to sit Seabrook. I don't think they do.

 

[wahsnairb]

Maybe they add Joker to a deal for a young promising forward.

I would rather move him than Gus right now, but I also am of the belief that Boqvist comes in as a stud after a year and am cool with Gus walking.

 

[LDF]

I would rather move him than Gus right now, but I also am of the belief that Boqvist comes in as a stud after a year and am cool with Gus walking.

SB would not like to let a player like Gus to walk with no rtn.

 

[wahsnairb]

SB would not like to let a player like Gus to walk with no rtn.

he becomes a self rental if the Hawks are competing; he is moved if they aren't competing (just like most quality UFA's)

I am just saying I would much rather move Joker than move Gus now that the roster is shaping up to be competitive.

 

[Muffinalt]

Even if they don't sit Seabrook..

Keith - Murphy
Maata - Gus
De Haan - Seabrook
Dahlstrom (Gilbert) - Joki

That's a legit, defensively capable, dare I say pretty deep D core. I wouldn't have thought it possible after the season ended. Well done Stan.

 

[LDF]

he becomes a self rental if the Hawks are competing; he is moved if they aren't competing (just like most quality UFA's)

I am just saying I would much rather move Joker than move Gus now that the roster is shaping up to be competitive.

this is really not meant for you per se, but why the hate on Joker.

last season i thought he was the second coming of a top notch d-man. what change ??

 

[wahsnairb]

this is really not meant for you per se, but why the hate on Joker.

last season i thought he was the second coming of a top notch d-man. what change ??

No hate at all from me. I just think he holds value and is odd man out if we slot Seabrook into the lineup which seems like a must given what he is paid.

For me, I am just way higher on Boqvist in the future and on Gus for the upcoming season if we are trying to win.

 

[Taze em]

I think we *could* see a seabrook buyout. They have the room and the buyout matches the Hawks cap structure as they get relief next year when they need to pay Strome and Cat

 

[Muffinalt]

he becomes a self rental if the Hawks are competing; he is moved if they aren't competing (just like most quality UFA's)

I am just saying I would much rather move Joker than move Gus now that the roster is shaping up to be competitive.

Totally agree. Joki has the whole board enamoured after a very short stint in the Nhl after which he fizzled out, while Gus became a legit 60 point first line defenseman yet he's the one expendable?

 

[LDF]

No hate at all from me. I just think he holds value and is odd man out if we slot Seabrook into the lineup which seems like a must given what he is paid.

For me, I am just way higher on Boqvist in the future and on Gus for the upcoming season if we are trying to win.

maybe my phrasing was wrong and within that, i am apologizing to you.

but you answered what i think is what i am looking for in your last sentence.

i on the other am not sold on Gus and his offensive numbers. i am willing to trade him now while the iron is still hot.

but hey many thanks for answering.

 

[LDF]

Totally agree. Joki has the whole board enamoured after a very short stint in the Nhl after which he fizzled out, while Gus became a legit 60 point first line defenseman yet he's the one expendable?

and a simple answer could be, Joker fazed out, which should be expected. esp for a rookie.

 

[ClydeLee]

he becomes a self rental if the Hawks are competing; he is moved if they aren't competing (just like most quality UFA's)

I am just saying I would much rather move Joker than move Gus now that the roster is shaping up to be competitive.

You can still trade guys off when you're looking competitive at the deadline. We saw the Blues do that the last two deadlines before this past season.

You also have more time then to evaluate if the prospects or Joker look like they can quickly fill in the offensive roles or decide none of them do look ready yet and work on an extension.