NFL: 2018 NFL off-season news & notes thread (Vikings sign Hunter to big extension)

[Voight]

His Panthers years don't count.

3 playoff appearances in 9 years, .500. Made a SB which is nice but also never made the playoffs two years in a row.

 

[What the Faulk]

His Panthers years don't count.

I always thought he was a solid coach, if old school and conservative, whose personality wears thin quickly. His early Panthers teams really weren't that talented, and yet he still put together a few deep runs. It wasn't until like 2008 that I'd say he really had a contending team in front of him, but then Delhomme had to go and shit the bed against Arizona. Throwing out that last lame duck season where they went 2-14 with Jimmy Clausen and Matt Moore and a disinterested Fox who knew he was going to not be re-signed after his contract ended that summer, he had a respectable 71-57 record (.554%) with no season less worse than 7-9 (despite inheriting a 1-15 team), and a 5-3 playoff record that includes 1 SB appearance, 2 NFCCG appearances, and 3 divisional round appearances in 8 seasons. Not bad.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

3 playoff appearances in 9 years, .500. Made a SB which is nice but also never made the playoffs two years in a row.

So what's your beef with him at ESPN?

 

[canwincup]

Can Hurns still be a productive receiver? His numbers are on a decline but that is partly due to injuries and poor QB play.

Also I don’t really get the fit with Dez on the roster, they play a similar type of game

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Fox's personality isn't good fit for TV IMO

His condescending attitude surely wont go well

 

[What the Faulk]

f***ing lame.

 

[WeThreeKings]

****ing lame.

Here's the problem with not making it a spot foul.

I'm a DB and I'm sure I'm beat deep, for a play that's going to cost my team 30-40 yards or potentially a TD. I'm just gonna maul the hell out of the receiver, not make an attempt on the ball or tackle.

It will actually increase the frequency of Defensive Pass Interference because the down-side of it isn't as grave.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Pass Interference is fine the way it is and WTK is correct that it would increase rate/frequency of pass interference if changed

 

[What the Faulk]

Here's the problem with not making it a spot foul.

I'm a DB and I'm sure I'm beat deep, for a play that's going to cost my team 30-40 yards or potentially a TD. I'm just gonna maul the hell out of the receiver, not make an attempt on the ball or tackle.

It will actually increase the frequency of Defensive Pass Interference because the down-side of it isn't as grave.

For the umpteenth time, nothing is stopping them from leaving the egregious plays as a spot foul.

 

[WeThreeKings]

For the umpteenth time, nothing is stopping them from leaving the egregious plays as a spot foul.

That's going to be too controversial.

 

[What the Faulk]

That's going to be too controversial.

As controversial as the current setup, which is all or nothing?

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Here's the problem with not making it a spot foul.

I'm a DB and I'm sure I'm beat deep, for a play that's going to cost my team 30-40 yards or potentially a TD. I'm just gonna maul the hell out of the receiver, not make an attempt on the ball or tackle.

It will actually increase the frequency of Defensive Pass Interference because the down-side of it isn't as grave.

Except that play doesn't happen that often. What does happen is a QB get rewarded for a horrendously underthrown deep pass with a 40 or 50 yard penalty because of contact initiated by the receiver.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Pass Interference is fine the way it is and WTK is correct that it would increase rate/frequency of pass interference if changed

It wouldn't at all.

 

[StreetHawk]

Pass Interference is fine the way it is and WTK is correct that it would increase rate/frequency of pass interference if changed

The only thing that isn’t fair is OPI which is a 10 yard penalty. Especially if the WR tackles the DB from making the pick.

But, rules do Favor the offense

 

[InjuredChoker]

 

[Avs_19]

For as pissed off as everyone seemed to be about the catch rule, I'm surprised there's no mention of this yet





I hate the argument made by Sam here. You have to have vague language like this, or "element of time", etc. You can't just stop at the first two because then you're calling control and 2 feet down even for a split second a catch. Nobody wants that.

This looks better on paper but I want to see how it gets applied before getting too excited about this no longer being an issue.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Here's the problem with not making it a spot foul.

I'm a DB and I'm sure I'm beat deep, for a play that's going to cost my team 30-40 yards or potentially a TD. I'm just gonna maul the hell out of the receiver, not make an attempt on the ball or tackle.

It will actually increase the frequency of Defensive Pass Interference because the down-side of it isn't as grave.

Doesn’t seem to affect the college game. DPI should be 15. Really not sure what the issue is. I have never liked the current rule.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Pass Interference is fine the way it is and WTK is correct that it would increase rate/frequency of pass interference if changed

No it would not. Guess you don’t watch college ball.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Except that play doesn't happen that often. What does happen is a QB get rewarded for a horrendously underthrown deep pass with a 40 or 50 yard penalty because of contact initiated by the receiver.

The Joe Flacco completion.

 

[tony d]

I'll miss Gore in Indy but guess this means they'll use one of their early picks on a running back.

 

[StreetHawk]

This looks better on paper but I want to see how it gets applied before getting too excited about this no longer being an issue.

One immediate thought is that defenses should go after the ball if it hits the ground. If receivers don’t have to survive the ground anymore, then if the receiver hits the ground without being touched then the ball pops out, it’s a fumble. Ball is dead if the receiver is contacted on his way down.

 

[What the Faulk]

Over the last few days the Panthers signed Da'Norris Searcy, Ross Cockrell, and Jeremiah Sirles and are probably done with UFAs if they want the 3rd rounder from losing Norwell. Sirles is the one that interests me most here as he's a guard and could find himself starting day one. I don't know anything about him, but he makes more sense than stuffing tackle Taylor Moton in there.

Still would trade everyone they signed for keeping Norwell. I'm going to be bitter about that all year.

 

[StreetHawk]

Still would trade everyone they signed for keeping Norwell. I'm going to be bitter about that all year.

Given their style of offence, I was also surprised that they didn't keep Norwell. Good OL are hard to find and develop.

That's the truth part for me about Sherman's comments that the "Seahawks lost their way", when they moved Unger to get Graham. They took away from their OL to give Wilson a passing weapon, but that killed the team's run game, which was their offensive identity.

Receiver and RBs are flashy, but so long as you have a good QB, a good OL helps a QB more than a weapon.

 

[sigma six]

You need all of it, and that's only possible when you have key guys who are still on their rookie contract.

 

[InjuredChoker]