NFL: 2018 NFL draft prospects thread

[Gene Parmesan]

Still not a top 10 combine though.

 

[tacogeoff]

Really enjoyed watching the RBs at the combine yesterday. Still have hope that my crappy Lions will pick up Royce later in the draft to address the running game.

 

[What the Faulk]

These are totally the same thing.

 

[GKJ]

Josh Allen can definitely throw a football

 

[VikingAv]

Josh Allen can definitely throw a football

But can he hit a moving target?

 

[Gene Parmesan]

These are totally the same thing.

Gotta carry that water.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Jackson's ability to mislead guys on where he's going to go, to find holes in the offense, is unreal. He's unstoppable 5 yards out as a scrambling QB. Based on that, I can see why guys want him as a receiver, he could be a devastating route runner, at least a screen pass 5 yards out. And he has an arm, but he misses too many throws for me to really believe in his consistency at that regard. I can see why they're trying him out at receiver, though unlike Tebow, Jackson deserves to get more than a cup of coffee at QB. If he puts it together, watch out. He could easily be a Wilson/Smith guy, with the gamebreaking talent those two, while not lack, don't exhibit consistently.

 

[Avs_19]

These are totally the same thing.

Rapoport makes himself look more and more foolish each day.

 

[rangerssharks414]

Damn.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Wow, that's too bad on a professional level, but possibly life saving on a human level. Great player....

 

[What the Faulk]

Wow, that's too bad on a professional level, but possibly life saving on a human level. Great player....

Possibly. Depends on the condition. Remember that Star Lotulelei was diagnosed with a heart condition at the 2013 combine and he's been fine after dropping from top 5 to #14.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Jackson's ability to mislead guys on where he's going to go, to find holes in the offense, is unreal. He's unstoppable 5 yards out as a scrambling QB. Based on that, I can see why guys want him as a receiver, he could be a devastating route runner, at least a screen pass 5 yards out. And he has an arm, but he misses too many throws for me to really believe in his consistency at that regard. I can see why they're trying him out at receiver, though unlike Tebow, Jackson deserves to get more than a cup of coffee at QB. If he puts it together, watch out. He could easily be a Wilson/Smith guy, with the gamebreaking talent those two, while not lack, don't exhibit consistently.

Except he's never played WR at any level so he'd be a wasted draft pick. He's a quarterback. His big struggles are throwing outside the hash marks accurately.

 

[Alex Jones]

For his sake I hope he's better at football than he is at exercising. I've heard some say he's raw but has potential and others have said he's big but that's about it. Louis Riddick ripped him on ESPN for both his tape and combine performance.

Not only is this guy not a good NFL level athlete, he's not a good athlete period.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Vernon is the combine GOAT.

Yeah he still talks about him today in interviews.



He had Mike Gesicki put up a pretty noteworthy day today too.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Courtland Sutton's 6.57 3 cone is pretty wild.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Calvin Ridley is old and not very athletic yet he's wr1. D.J. Moore and Courtland Sutton are the only round 1 wideouts for me. Ridley really tested poorly. Don't be fooled by his 40 time.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Yeah he still talks about him today in interviews.



He had Mike Gesicki put up a pretty noteworthy day today too.

One of the best combines ever for TE. Quite an athlete.

 

[InjuredChoker]

Courtland Sutton's 6.57 3 cone is pretty wild.

if i did my pro-football-reference combine search correctly, no 6'3 (or over) WR has ever had as good 3 cone and shuttle times as he had.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

if i did my pro-football-reference combine search correctly, no 6'3 (or over) WR has ever had as good 3 cone and shuttle times as he had.

Yeah he and Dylan Cantrell and D.J. Moore are super athletes.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

Watching the combine this morning with the interior defensive linemen and Vita Vea is a scary specimen of a human being. A 5.01 40 yard run by a 340 pound man. Absolutely scary.

 

[StreetHawk]

One of the best combines ever for TE. Quite an athlete.

I've seen comparisons to Ebron for him. Means that he can't block. So, you have to understand his limitations. He's no Witten, Olson, Gronk in that regard. More like Graham.

So, it really depends on how the TE fits into your offence's scheme or whether you have a good blocking TE on your roster to insert into the lineup for a running play. Geseki will be a mismatch when he lines up off the line.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Watching the combine this morning with the interior defensive linemen and Vita Vea is a scary specimen of a human being. A 5.01 40 yard run by a 340 pound man. Absolutely scary.

He's going to be a space eater.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

I've seen comparisons to Ebron for him. Means that he can't block. So, you have to understand his limitations. He's no Witten, Olson, Gronk in that regard. More like Graham.

So, it really depends on how the TE fits into your offence's scheme or whether you have a good blocking TE on your roster to insert into the lineup for a running play. Geseki will be a mismatch when he lines up off the line.

He's a willing blocker unlike Graham. He just sucks at it.

 

[StreetHawk]

Jackson's ability to mislead guys on where he's going to go, to find holes in the offense, is unreal. He's unstoppable 5 yards out as a scrambling QB. Based on that, I can see why guys want him as a receiver, he could be a devastating route runner, at least a screen pass 5 yards out. And he has an arm, but he misses too many throws for me to really believe in his consistency at that regard. I can see why they're trying him out at receiver, though unlike Tebow, Jackson deserves to get more than a cup of coffee at QB. If he puts it together, watch out. He could easily be a Wilson/Smith guy, with the gamebreaking talent those two, while not lack, don't exhibit consistently.

Right now, Jackson is more of a running QB than a scrambling QB like Wilson. First option for him is to tuck the ball and take off.

For Jackson to make it as a QB, it really depends on which team takes him because they have to understand how to work with a QB with that type of athleticism, and not try to fit him in as a pocket passer. Have to be comfortable letting him run a shotgun offence for 80% of the time when he gets into the lineup.

Jackson should sit for a year to work with the QB coach.

Where are the best places for him? I don't think any team that is currently in need of a starter is the best place for him. And it will depend on the offensive coaching staff tailoring their offence for him.

If he's going to be a mid to late first rounder, possibly sliding into Rd 2, then Chargers with an older Rivers, Ravens with Flacco if Newsome really likes Jackson, Bills if they have a vet ahead of him, Dolphins if they don't truly believe in Tannehill, Saints with an older Brees probably make the most sense.

AZ is the team with the best overall supporting cast for a young starter, but they are best served to get someone who can step right in now. If Arians will still the HC, then maybe he gambles and runs with Jackson right away. Not sure if the new HC will want to do that.

I'd leave out Pitt because they need to replace Shazier and their window is now with Big Ben nearing the end. Same with Jax, their window is now and if Bortles is their guy for a couple more years, have to surround him with either weapons, OL, or elite D with their draft picks, Washington since he might remind them of RGIII, Minny is win now and need to load up offence or take Defense to replace the guys whose contracts will come up in another year or two.

It really comes down to how many GMs and coaches are comfortable with working with Jackson. Have to be able to accentuate his strengths and accept his weaknesses. If he fails, then they are likely both fired.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

He's going to be a space eater.

They were mentioning on the commentary that Vea was consistently taking on two to three offensive linemen at a time and that they would also use him at defensive end to rush the quarterback as well. I really hope that Vea ends up in Washington. He and Jonathan Allen could be a lot of fun.