The Milner one is debatable because he doesn't move towards the ball, but based on the distance the ball traveled and that his arm was away from his body, and the fact that is stopped a sure goal, it's given more often than not. The fact that Milner wasn't sent off is the referees concession in that play.
That ball was hit right at Milner and it happened very quickly, and if Milner tried to get his arm out of the way it still would have hit it. It was a very textbook case of ball to hand which shouldn't have been called. Not to mention Karius was right in the path of the shot so I don't see how that would have been anything but a save unless Karius fluffed it.
The TAA play isn't debatable. He makes himself bigger with his arms and stops a goal, that's a textbook penalty and red card.
Again, I don't agree with this at all. TAA's arms were up because he was jumping toward the ball, and as soon as he isn't getting it he starts pulling his arms in to himself and the ball is blasted right into his hand. He had no way of getting out of the way of that, and on top of which the ball was going over the net anyway (based on all the angles I've seen of the replay). It's not a textbook penalty or a red card:
“Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with his hand or arm. The referee must take the following into consideration:
• the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
• the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
• the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement
• touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement
• hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) counts as an infringement”
The distance was next to 0, the ball was hit directly at his hand as he was pulling it down and toward himself. The ball was going over the net.
The Karius play should have been a penalty, but not a red card. It was an attempt at ball and there was coverage to the side of him so it wasn't a last man type situation. Yellow and pen is the proper call there if the offside flag wasn't raised.
Agreed, it should have been a penalty and a yellow if the offside flag was not raised.
The Mane claim is so incredibly weak. He barely gets touched on the back and flops to the ground. That call is basically never given. He doesn't shove him, he raises his hands and places them on his back.
I don't agree really that it was weak. You can see that he actually pushes him with both hands if you watch the replay, just as Mane goes to jump while he's running. I do agree it's not called nearly enough but it was absolutely a push and a foul.
Dzeko is likely inches offside on his goal, although I haven't seen a solid replay.
Looked onside to me on the replay they showed live.
Lovren was unfortunate to get a yellow, but his arm being up makes the call almost a given, even if the player only went down because he slipped.
So his arm being up makes the call almost a given even though the player fell because he slipped (one hand, btw) but Mane's call is never given despite it being two hands and a push? Interesting.
Florenzi should have absolutely seen a red for his tackle. I think that actually goes back to the first half when he got in Mane's face after Mane tried a back heel in the box. I assume he was upset because he thought Mane was showboating or some other stupid reason.
Agreed, didn't understand the reaction to Mane's backheel in the first place. Florenzi was being an idiot.
van Dijk committed a textbook foul on Liverpool's second goal, he's not jumping for the ball, he's nudging into the defender to push him off balance and it leads directly to a chance/goal. It's similar to the call in the first half where Dzeko had his hands on (I think) Lovren's back during a ball into the box and put him off balance. When those happen on headers, they're called 98% of the time.
I don't agree in either case. I didn't think it should have been a foul against Lovren and I don't think it was a foul with van Dijk. He's allowed to challenge for the ball and he jumped for it, and the defender jumped toward him as well. That wasn't a foul in either case, IMO. I was very confused when they gave that foul in favor of Lovren tbh.
On the whole, the calls went Liverpool's way in this tie, and the complexion of it would have been very different if they didn't. I'm not saying Liverpool fans should be sorry for that, I have no issues with LITN's approach. Liverpool have been screwed hard at times this season and it feels good to get the good side of that sometimes. The approach I think is a joke is the one taken by Curt where he seems to deny that there was any advantage at all and continually deflect.
Sure. What about when Wijnaldum was taken out trying to play a 1-2 with Firmino:
(time is 3:16)? Or the multiple times that Salah was absolutely mugged with no call (as he has been all season, it's pretty ridiculous)? There's a lot more context to go with some of the missed calls, and there were missed calls on both sides all over the pitch all game over both ties. People only focus on the ones that they want to see.