2017 Draft Discussion - Part Deux

[lanky]

Don't care who it is, as long as they shoot right.

Necas
Suzuki
Liljegren
Makar
Vilardi
Tippett

We've got options.

 

[XX]

We've got options.

You forgot Glass. Too early for Suzuki.

It's nice to have competent scouts. Probably don't have to worry about them doing something dumb like picking Rasmussen.

 

[Ebb]

You forgot Glass. Too early for Suzuki.

It's nice to have competent scouts. Probably don't have to worry about them doing something dumb like picking Rasmussen.

Going off of RT's "likely" scenario, Glass is gone at 5

 

[rt]

Vancouver just strikes me as liking safe, defensively responsible types like Horvat, Virtanen(lol-didn't turn out), and Juolevi. Glass seems right. Plus he's a big C and a Western kid. Just seems very Vancouver. Maybe Dallas does us a favor and takes Heiskanen and Colorado gets so damned D desperate that they just pull the trigger way early on Liljegren or Makar? That'd be cool. Maybe Vegas wants "Flash" first and foremost and NHL-ready as the secondary option. Maybe they like Tippett as a result. Fans don't have to wait long and he's a coast-to-coast bull. Also has no use for linemates which will benefit him on a lowly expansion team. Might actually be a smart pick for them.

 

[PhoPhan]

Even though it's a lower pick in a worse draft, look for Vegas to go for someone they can build their identity around, a la Rick Nash, Ilya Kovalchuk, or Marian Gaborik (or even David Legwand). I don't think they take a defenseman or a complementary scorer like Tippett. Just a hunch.

Also think there's something to the rumblings that Benning loves Mittelstadt. Feel confident he's gone before 7.

Dallas, because they haven't had such a high pick in so long, seems unlikely to go off the board, but I think Colorado could be the one that goes off the board.

 

[IPreferPi]

Vancouver just strikes me as liking safe, defensively responsible types like Horvat, Virtanen(lol-didn't turn out), and Juolevi. Glass seems right. Plus he's a big C and a Western kid. Just seems very Vancouver.

Been reading the Canucks boards after the lottery: apparently Benning has indicated that drafting a playmaking center and a PP QB defenseman are their top priorities this year. Glass and Mittlestadt obviously fit the former, but Liljegren and Makar fit the latter too (and also don't forget Makar is a Western kid). Unless someone like Jokiharju or Brannstrom are still around at the top of the 2nd, the top offensive D in this draft will be gone when the Canucks pick again.

Consensus among Stars HFers seems like they'll go with Heiskanen.

 

[lanky]

I did forget Glass. So that makes 8 right shooting skaters that could be considered in the top ten. My order for those 8...

Patrick
Necas
Glass
Suzuki
Liljegren
Vilardi
Makar
Tippett

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

My Realistic order of wants

Glass
Vlardi
Necas
Trade down around Suzuki
Liljegren
Tippet
Makar

 

[rt]

1. Hischier
2. Necas
3. Vilardi
4. Glass
5. Patrick
6. Mittelstadt
7. Makar
8. Suzuki
9. Tippett
10. Thomas

 

[IPreferPi]

Hischier
Glass
Mittlestadt
Vilardi
Necas
Suzuki
Patrick
Heiskanen
Petersson
Tippett

 

[BlazingBlueAnt]

We did draft two Junior A Dman last year

 

[XX]

We did draft two Junior A Dman last year

In the 6th and 7th rounds.

 

[Alberta Yote]

And neither were close the player Makar is

 

[Grvmnd]

I think if Tippett's last name was douchewitz, he'd be ranked higher on this board.

 

[Grimes]

I think if Tippett's last name was douchewitz, he'd be ranked higher on this board.

Tippett seems like Tippett's worst enemy.

(This statement works for both situations)

 

[BUX7PHX]

Tippett seems like Tippett's worst enemy.

(This statement works for both situations)

Well played.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I could see Chayka taking Makar if his advanced stats check out. I'm not a fan of drafting players from unusual leagues, like the AJHL or high school (Mittelstadt) but I trust Chayka. Keller was not a safe pick at 7 last year and he's looking like one of the top picks from the draft so I trust whatever decision we make.

 

[Englishcoyote]

Think we either trade down in the 1st round to 15-25th pick or pick a d man

 

[lanky]

I could see Chayka taking Makar if his advanced stats check out. I'm not a fan of drafting players from unusual leagues, like the AJHL or high school (Mittelstadt) but I trust Chayka. Keller was not a safe pick at 7 last year and he's looking like one of the top picks from the draft so I trust whatever decision we make.

I don't think Keller's situation is comparable. The USNDP plays against older college teams, slightly older USHL teams and wraps up the season against the best players in the world of the same age, usually by winning gold, at the U18 World Championship. It's a highly respected program and Keller destroyed his competition all the way through. I would argue that he was a very safe pick.

 

[Mosby]

I think mynhldraft.com has it pegged perfectly:

1. NJD-Nico
2. PHI-Nolan
3. DAL-Heiskanen
4. COL-Vilardi
5. VAN-Glass
6. VGK-Mittelstadt
7. ARI-???????????

Tippett is my pick here.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Don't care who it is, as long as they shoot right.

For me that'd be Necas as best available option. I just like his overall game.

 

[Heldig]

I could see Chayka taking Makar if his advanced stats check out. I'm not a fan of drafting players from unusual leagues, like the AJHL or high school (Mittelstadt) but I trust Chayka. Keller was not a safe pick at 7 last year and he's looking like one of the top picks from the draft so I trust whatever decision we make.

Keller had just finished one of the best USDT careers of all time...right up there with Matthews, Kane, and Kessel. Dont think he was a big reach at 7.

No substitute for speed, skating ability and offensive talent.

 

[WrinkledPossum]

I don't think Keller's situation is comparable. The USNDP plays against older college teams, slightly older USHL teams and wraps up the season against the best players in the world of the same age, usually by winning gold, at the U18 World Championship. It's a highly respected program and Keller destroyed his competition all the way through. I would argue that he was a very safe pick.

He wasn't projected to go at 7. I don't think I saw one mock draft that had Keller going ahead of Nylander, and most had us taking a defencemen which would have been the safest option.

 

[SniperHF]

He wasn't projected to go at 7. I don't think I saw one mock draft that had Keller going ahead of Nylander, and most had us taking a defencemen which would have been the safest option.

I dunno Logan Brown talk was pretty popular for 7. Pretty sure he won our "vote" in the HF mock. Keller was on my radar and I know he was on Pho's. I don't think he was a reach at 7 come draft day since his stock was constantly going up.

 

[tucknroll]

He wasn't projected to go at 7. I don't think I saw one mock draft that had Keller going ahead of Nylander, and most had us taking a defencemen which would have been the safest option.

There was a bunch that did

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2016-draft/nhl-draft-rankings/

his average draft position was 8, so 7 wasn't a reach at all

http://www.mynhldraft.com/2016-draft/2016-nhl-draft-consensus-rankings/

Keller was the pick i wanted at 7, if he was off the table then Chychrun was my next choice.... Imagine how happy i was on draft day