2016 NHL Draft - II

[BlackCrowes]

In 36 games this past season, Thompson scored one goal at even strength. This pick would make me nervous.

Mike, I'm a UConn STH. Those numbers are deceiving because the Huskies are a very thin team. Basically a 1 line team, so against the grind of Hockey East our scoring chances were pretty limited to PP's. Tage is a player, great hands and shot, good skater, doesn't really use his size as much as you might like. Don't kill him (or me!) for the comparison but he reminds me of Jimmy Hayes. Just my 2 cents.

 

[TwineTickler]

Mike, I'm a UConn STH. Those numbers are deceiving because the Huskies are a very thin team. Basically a 1 line team, so against the grind of Hockey East our scoring chances were pretty limited to PP's. Tage is a player, great hands and shot, good skater, doesn't really use his size as much as you might like. Don't kill him (or me!) for the comparison but he reminds me of Jimmy Hayes. Just my 2 cents.

If that is the case let's stay the hell away!

 

[BlackCrowes]

No way on Clague in my book if we have already taken Fabbro. Probably the same with Cholowski. ALthough I have heard there was a big growth spurt there, so I wonder what he is at now for Size

If you Add Fabbro to the group of 18/19 defenseman, that leaves Carlo and 3 guys in the 6'0 -6'2 range. I'd want to add a second player with size and that great skating to that group. Niemalenien in the first round or Day in the second. But I don't think they will go with 3 defenseman




Sorry, but I'd absolutely hate that pick. Big kid, can't skate, was strictly a power play specialist at the college level. Boom or bust kid, but I'd put the odds at 75% or higher Bust. Honestly I wouldn't take him at 49

Joe- You don't think that Tage can skate well? I thought he had a nice efficient stride and accelerated well. He was not a PP specialist. Again, UConn was a 1 line team. When you played them you could put your top pair D against the Thompson/Letunov line and then whoever against the rest and shut them down. And don't forget Thompson was a 18 year old Freshman in this situation. In my opinion he's better that you're making him out to be, but I still don't want the Bruins to take him. If I could have a say in the draft I'd rather the Bruins go Fabbro at 14, Neimelien (Spelled it wrong) at 29 and Day at 49. You can't have too many defensemen....

 

[BlackCrowes]

If that is the case let's stay the hell away!

Well I'm hoping that next year in his Soph season he starts to use the body a bit more than he did last season.

 

[bobber]

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=252492

Read that and tell me you don't get a super chub.

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

 

[Bruins78]

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

He had the 3rd highest p/GM in the Q for draft eligible forwards behind Dubois and ABramov. He's a good skater who can uses a lot o turnovers and has played wing and center. He had 2 goals and an assist in his teams three goals in the top prospects game. He was trending up right through the end of the season. He has a good frame that can support another 20-25 lbs. With his frame, speed and tenacity, if you're picking at #29 or 30 he offers a very nice blend of a high floor while also offering a good ceiling.

 

[TwineTickler]

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

That write up doesn't excite you? Not eye popping stats but I've seen some highlights and done some reading up on him and he's definitely a guy who I think is just going to continue to grow as a hockey player. Bergeron his draft year in the Q 23 50 73 points in 70 games and +27. Laberge 23 45 for 68 in 56 games and was -3. So while the +/- isn't where Bergerons was, he put up better offensive numbers and this kid seems to have the intangibles and work ethic the Bruins love and that help you become a really good NHL player (similar to Bergeron). I really see him being someone in a few years teams are going to be saying "we should have drafted him earlier" similar to how teams are kicking themselves for passing on Bergeron back in the day. Remains to be seen but that's how I feel about this kid. He may not be there now with the SJ pick continuing to slide back, but if he is, I think they'd be nuts to pass on him.

 

[Son of Donegal]

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

Zack Hamil had solid stats in his draft year.

 

[BB88]

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

I'd say those stats look pretty good at where we are drafting, and he seems to a Boston type player.

But it's a damm shame San Jose went to the finals, would have been a great target with their pick.

 

[Ratty]

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=252492

Read that and tell me you don't get a super chub.

All well and good. But.....................can he speak English?

 

[Gator Mike]

I like Laberge. By all accounts, he's got good wheels, a great set of hands, is responsible defensively, and is a high character kid. What's not to like?

Also like Will Bitten, who managed to produce at a fairly impressive rate despite the dumpster fire that was Flint this year.

 

[Son of Donegal]

I like Laberge. By all accounts, he's got good wheels, a great set of hands, is responsible defensively, and is a high character kid. What's not to like?

Also like Will Bitten, who managed to produce at a fairly impressive rate despite the dumpster fire that was Flint this year.

I like Bitten and Laberge with the SJS pick if the Bruins get a D at 14. For me, it has to be Bean or Fabbro...maybe McAvoy, although recent rankings have him in the top 10. If the Bruins pick up a forward at 14 (Bellow, Jones, Kunin, Keller) at 14, they likely go for Niemelainen at 29-30.

There is also the question of whether they move one of the picks on draft day for a proven NHL defenseman.

If they do, it is doubtful either Bitten or Laberge will be around at 49 in the 2nd round.

Here are three scenarios that might play out:

A. Bruins keep all 1st and 2nd round picks with an emphasis on D.

14 - Bean, Fabbro or McAvoy
29-30 - Bitten, Laberge or Mascherin
49 - Niemelainen or Dineen

B. Bruins keep all 1st and 2nd round picks with an emphasis on Forward

14 - Gauthier, Bellows, Jones, Keller
29-30 - Niemelainen, Johansen or Dineen
49 - Steel, Dube or Gettinger

C. Bruins trade SJS pick and draft BPA

14 - Any one of Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, Gauthier, Bellows, Jones
49 - Neimelainen, Dineen, Steel, Dube

 

[Gee Wally]

Bruins are on a talent hunt at NHL Combine
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...nhl-combine/LDqadNI30TE2ku8tj0EE5J/story.html

 

[Bruins78]

I like Laberge. By all accounts, he's got good wheels, a great set of hands, is responsible defensively, and is a high character kid. What's not to like?

Also like Will Bitten, who managed to produce at a fairly impressive rate despite the dumpster fire that was Flint this year.

Uncanny resemblence to my post #652 in this thread. Great minds and all that I suppose.

 

[Bruins78]

I like Bitten and Laberge with the SJS pick if the Bruins get a D at 14. For me, it has to be Bean or Fabbro...maybe McAvoy, although recent rankings have him in the top 10. If the Bruins pick up a forward at 14 (Bellow, Jones, Kunin, Keller) at 14, they likely go for Niemelainen at 29-30.

There is also the question of whether they move one of the picks on draft day for a proven NHL defenseman.

If they do, it is doubtful either Bitten or Laberge will be around at 49 in the 2nd round.

Here are three scenarios that might play out:

A. Bruins keep all 1st and 2nd round picks with an emphasis on D.

14 - Bean, Fabbro or McAvoy
29-30 - Bitten, Laberge or Mascherin
49 - Niemelainen or Dineen

B. Bruins keep all 1st and 2nd round picks with an emphasis on Forward

14 - Gauthier, Bellows, Jones, Keller
29-30 - Niemelainen, Johansen or Dineen
49 - Steel, Dube or Gettinger

C. Bruins trade SJS pick and draft BPA

14 - Any one of Bean, Fabbro, McAvoy, Gauthier, Bellows, Jones
49 - Neimelainen, Dineen, Steel, Dube

I'm liking Ryan Lindgren as a potential second round dman as well...he looks like a solid if slightly unspectacular, possible 3-4 type

 

[Gator Mike]

Uncanny resemblence to my post #652 in this thread. Great minds and all that I suppose.

Knew I wasn't smart enough to come up with that opinion on my own.

 

[neelynugs]

I like Laberge. By all accounts, he's got good wheels, a great set of hands, is responsible defensively, and is a high character kid. What's not to like?

he sounds good on paper for sure. i've talked to 3-4 guys who have seen him a lot, and they are actually all pretty meh about laberge off the record. he's a guy who teams probably have a large difference of opinion on, based on the small sample of feedback i got. no idea what boston plans on doing, but my guess is they want a D prospect and an impact D for now (which means there's a good chance they don't keep both picks and make a trade).

 

[neelynugs]

I'm liking Ryan Lindgren as a potential second round dman as well...he looks like a solid if slightly unspectacular, possible 3-4 type

opposite of my thoughts on laberge --- every guy i talked to about lindgren is a pretty big fan of his. don't think he's gonna be on the board with that 2nd round pick.

 

[Bruins78]

he sounds good on paper for sure. i've talked to 3-4 guys who have seen him a lot, and they are actually all pretty meh about laberge off the record. he's a guy who teams probably have a large difference of opinion on, based on the small sample of feedback i got. no idea what boston plans on doing, but my guess is they want a D prospect and an impact D for now (which means there's a good chance they don't keep both picks and make a trade).

Thanks for sharing the feedback. I did hear he looked pretty lost at the U-18's in at least few of the games but chalked that up to the lack of chemistry these tournaments afford. Still a seemingly good overall package, would be curious a to whether he just lacks offensive creativity/IQ or what's missing. In a draft that seems pretty weak in the 20-60 range he seems intriguing.

 

[Brick81]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, just got a quick question regarding the draft. What time does the draft start on the 25th???? Someone planned nephews B-day party on the same day, I just want to make sure I'm able to watch it!!!!! Already had to cancel my damn draft party..

Is it usually like a 6/7pm thing??? Or does it actually start/happen on the 24th???

Please thanks and sorry...

 

[reffree]

Doesn't seem that great. Not really stats to get excited about for Major Junior

No, but still good enough to hope for a 2nd liner. He lead his team in scoring as a 17yo, was 25th in the Q in pts per game, behind Dubois and Abramov for draft eligible foward. Would have been 27th in the Ohl in pts per game behind Tkachuk, Debrincatt, Nylander, Brown and Mascherin as draft eligible foward.

 

[reffree]

That write up doesn't excite you? Not eye popping stats but I've seen some highlights and done some reading up on him and he's definitely a guy who I think is just going to continue to grow as a hockey player. Bergeron his draft year in the Q 23 50 73 points in 70 games and +27. Laberge 23 45 for 68 in 56 games and was -3. So while the +/- isn't where Bergerons was, he put up better offensive numbers and this kid seems to have the intangibles and work ethic the Bruins love and that help you become a really good NHL player (similar to Bergeron). I really see him being someone in a few years teams are going to be saying "we should have drafted him earlier" similar to how teams are kicking themselves for passing on Bergeron back in the day. Remains to be seen but that's how I feel about this kid. He may not be there now with the SJ pick continuing to slide back, but if he is, I think they'd be nuts to pass on him.

You just can't just look at stat that way. First Bergeron was on a powerhouse and had good +/-, Laberge is on one of the worst team of the league and have bad +/-. Second, Bergeron was "nothing" in junior, what make him Bergeron is that incredible developpemental curve. It was just amazing. You can't take his 73 pts and tell someone doing the same will succed too.

To put a more extreme exemple. Look at Lucic, every now and then we see a team pick a big guy stuggling offensively and all their fans use Lucic to pump the tire of their new shining prospect. Why? Because Lucic had like 20 pts in his draft year, so clearly, if Lucic could go from a 20 pts junior player to a 60 pts NHLer, their prospect can do it too. Well, yeah, but Lucic isn't the rule he's the exception.

 

[TwineTickler]

he sounds good on paper for sure. i've talked to 3-4 guys who have seen him a lot, and they are actually all pretty meh about laberge off the record. he's a guy who teams probably have a large difference of opinion on, based on the small sample of feedback i got. no idea what boston plans on doing, but my guess is they want a D prospect and an impact D for now (which means there's a good chance they don't keep both picks and make a trade).

Well **** Nugs.... now I'm not as high on him haha.

 

[neelynugs]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, just got a quick question regarding the draft. What time does the draft start on the 25th???? Someone planned nephews B-day party on the same day, I just want to make sure I'm able to watch it!!!!! Already had to cancel my damn draft party..

Is it usually like a 6/7pm thing??? Or does it actually start/happen on the 24th???

Please thanks and sorry...

i think friday night starts 7pm - just 1st round. and saturday is rounds 2-7, usually like 10am to around 2/2:30pm.

 

[neelynugs]

Well **** Nugs.... now I'm not as high on him haha.

we'll see - i could've talked to the 3-4 guys that don't like him. that's scouting for ya. based on
what neely said at end of season, i'm expecting them to get a D with upside and then check that
other box with a RW with size and some junkyard dog to his game.