2016 ATD Lineup Advice Thread

[overpass]

I've never seen him as a two-way guy to be honest, but I am a little surprised to see he was 5th in Selke voting in 91.

Fleury was probably 5th in Selke voting for the same reason Paul Ysabart was 9th in voting the next year.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Fleury was probably 5th in Selke voting for the same reason Paul Ysabart was 9th in voting the next year.

Without looking at fleury or ysabart those years my guess is SH goals

 

[overpass]

Without looking at fleury or ysabart those years my guess is SH goals

Nope. Fleury and Ysebaert both scored a few shorties that year but it wasn't what I had in mind.

Ron Francis in his Selke year of 1995 is another member of this group.

 

[MadArcand]

Nope. Fleury and Ysebaert both scored a few shorties that year but it wasn't what I had in mind.

Ron Francis in his Selke year of 1995 is another member of this group.

Except that Francis was on another level defensively than them.

+/- leaders?

 

[VanIslander]

If you were the coach, which four of these would you put on the penalty kill units? (Perhaps there could be three units.)

Edgar Laprade
Patrice Bergeron
Norm Ullman
Bert Olmstead
Ed Litzenberger
Ed Sandford

 

[Dreakmur]

If you were the coach, which four of these would you put on the penalty kill units? (Perhaps there could be three units.)

Edgar Laprade
Patrice Bergeron
Norm Ullman
Bert Olmstead
Ed Litzenberger
Ed Sandford

Top 2 I would consider very good. The next 2 I woul consider ok. The bottom 2 I would not want on any pk.

 

[overpass]

Except that Francis was on another level defensively than them.

+/- leaders?

Yes. All three led the league in plus-minus and won the Alka-Selzer Plus-Minus Award.

Leading the league in plus-minus usually means a few Selke votes for a forward.

 

[seventieslord]

Top 2 I would consider very good. The next 2 I woul consider ok. The bottom 2 I would not want on any pk.

I agree. Laprade and Bergeron are easily top unit guys. I'd consider Ullman a bonafide 2nd unit all-time guy. I'd prefer to have a 4th guy better than Olmstead but if I don't, he'll do. I draft better penalty killers than Sandford and Litzenberger in the AAA draft.

 

[Dreakmur]

You don't know Litzenberger much at all, do you?

A bio largely based on 6+ PMs from respected veteran ATDer pappyline to come before the month is up. (Certainly, it'll be finished before the 1st round of the ATD playoffs is done.)

Hopefully, those 6+ PMs had legitimate sources in them.....

 

[Hobnobs]

Hopefully, those 6+ PMs had legitimate sources in them.....

tbh Pappyline is a pretty legitimate source himself (on the hawks). I would value his quotes as much as any home town sports journalists quotes.

 

[Dreakmur]

tbh Pappyline is a pretty legitimate source himself (on the hawks). I would value his quotes as much as any home town sports journalists quotes.

If I see him post them himself, I'd give them a little bit of weight.

 

[Hobnobs]

If I see him post them himself, I'd give them a little bit of weight.

Yes, I agree.

 

[VanIslander]

I promise to post every one of the PMs I've received on Litzenberger in the 1st round of the playoffs (after seventieslord collects and tallies the rankings - against my simple and direct request for anyone else to do so because I personally feel there's bias there).

I'll have a great bio on Litzenberger up and posted during the 1st round of the playoffs.

 

[Dreakmur]

I promise to post every one of the PMs I've received on Litzenberger in the 1st round of the playoffs (after seventieslord collects and tallies the rankings - against my simple and direct request for anyone else to do so because I personally feel there's bias there).

I'll have a great bio on Litzenberger up and posted during the 1st round of the playoffs.

No offense, but unless he posts them himself, I'm not giving them much weight.

 

[seventieslord]

No offense, but unless he posts them himself, I'm not giving them much weight.

He's also the world's biggest Ed Litzenberger fan, like, ever.

 

[Sturminator]

The thing about Litzenberger is that before the car crash, he was well on his way to a hall of fame career. We don't need pappy to tell us that he was a great hockey player in Chicago. I would be more interested to find out what sort of player he was in Toronto.