2016-17 Backup Goalie

[Oskar The Groucho]

Joni Ortio is still a guy I could see turning into a very good 20-25 game NHL backup...

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

What about a guy like Kevin Poulin?

 

[TMLegend]

Wonder if they just trade Lupul for Howard or something. Maybe some conditional picks thrown in somewhere as well.

Just someone to ride out the year who would probably get snapped up in a years time in the expansion draft.

 

[Bullseye]

Wonder if they just trade Lupul for Howard or something. Maybe some conditional picks thrown in somewhere as well.

Just someone to ride out the year who would probably get snapped up in a years time in the expansion draft.

Interesting idea. The only problem is we have Lupul on the books for 2 years and Howard is 3 years. Howard is also injury prone. Lupul will play hard and get injured thus hiding his salary so it takes care of itself.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Wonder if they just trade Lupul for Howard or something. Maybe some conditional picks thrown in somewhere as well.

Just someone to ride out the year who would probably get snapped up in a years time in the expansion draft.

why?

Adding another year of salary that's not needed.

They're going to not have lupul on the team in 2017-18, one way or another, through trade/buyout.

 

[crump]

With potential cap issues happening around the Cowen saga, it might be Andersen playing 70 games and Bibeau or Sparks for the rest.

 

[TheKingSlayer]

why?

Adding another year of salary that's not needed.

They're going to not have lupul on the team in 2017-18, one way or another, through trade/buyout.

We don't really have a cap situation (once the Cowen things clears up), and this moves out a forward contract to a place where we can hide it better.

Someone picking up Howard in the expansion is also a lot more likely than someone picking up Lupul IMO.

 

[Mad Brills*]

exactly.

leafs need a bit of cap room next year for overages

 

[WTFMAN99]

Still think the most obvious goalie is the one we'll go with. Enroth on a 2 year deal between 1M-1.5M per.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Seeing as they dumped bernier for nothing, rehabilating his value might have been the best play......

 

[WTFMAN99]

Seeing as they dumped bernier for nothing, rehabilating his value might have been the best play......

Look at our cap situation if we had kept Bernier, especially if we somehow get saddled with Cowen's contract.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Look at our cap situation if we had kept Bernier, especially if we somehow get saddled with Cowen's contract.

cowen would've been buried with 900k cap hit.

They would've been fine.

DOn't sign martin then.

 

[WTFMAN99]

cowen would've been buried with 900k cap hit.

They would've been fine.

DOn't sign martin then.

No, if Cowen stays in the AHL he is a 2.15M cap hit.

I'd rather have Martin then 4M in dead money on the bench in a back up. Bad cap management.

 

[Mad Brills*]

No, if Cowen stays in the AHL he is a 2.15M cap hit.

I'd rather have Martin then 4M in dead money on the bench in a back up. Bad cap management.

uh, how much was he making the ahl this year?

 

[WTFMAN99]

uh, how much was he making the ahl this year?

His salary is 3.1M - if you demote someone you only get like 925-950k relief, the rest counts against your cap.

 

[ACC1224]

No, if Cowen stays in the AHL he is a 2.15M cap hit.

I'd rather have Martin then 4M in dead money on the bench in a back up. Bad cap management.

Anderssen replaced Bernier, they wouldn't be here together.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Anderssen replaced Bernier, they wouldn't be here together.

Agreed on this, I never really saw a scenario in which we'd keep both.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Agreed on this, I never really saw a scenario in which we'd keep both.

the one where you maximize asset management.

 

[WTFMAN99]

the one where you maximize asset management.

What would you rather have Matt Martin or a 3rd-7th round pick?

Considering the sheer volume of picks we have at this point, I'd rather just have Matt Martin to help out our bottom 6. He's going to play 82 games and provide something we need, versus Bernier playing 20-25 games and being flipped for a pick that likely becomes nothing.

 

[ACC1224]

Agreed on this, I never really saw a scenario in which we'd keep both.

Especially when one was traded for the other.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Especially when one was traded for the other.

Writing was on the wall for me.

Both Bernier and Bozak had bonus pay outs on July 1st.

When we didn't get Stamkos, Bozak was staying. When we got Andersen, figured someone would find Bernier appealing at 2.15M salary as long as they had the cap.

 

[RobBrown4PM]

Get a journey man goaltender who can play in both the A and the big club and switch with Sparks periodically through out the season.

 

[Oskar The Groucho]

The real question is could Aders Lindback come into the season completly heathy. He has been dealing with nagging injury issues for the past 3 seasons.

 

[67Cup]

Goalies are inherently unpredictable. It is entirely possible that Bernier will have a good season in Anaheim, playing behind a better D and experiencing the benefits of a fresh start with a new team. He may even have better stats than Andersen. If that happens, Brills would be able to say, "I told you so," and doubtless will do so. But Bernier wouldn't have that season with the Leafs, IMO. And it is unlikely he would increase his trade value heading into an expansion draft in which teams can only protect one goalie. The trade value of backups is unlikely to increase this year, across the NHL.

This is not a bad time to pick up a backup cheap for the next couple of seasons. If I had to guess, Enroth would be the most likely candidate, as many posters have said. I have no complaints about asset management here.