Blue Jays GDT: (2015 v5) NEXT: @ Cle | Sun, May 3| 1PM ET/10am PT | Hutchison vs Bauer

[Longshot]

no it's a result of a pitching coach who doesn't know how to maximize that talent. A good pitching coach will be able to mold that pure stuff into a good pitcher.

By that logic then all the pitching coaches in the organization need to be fired. Top to bottom. Minor leagues. Development leagues, etc.

It's not like they just forgot how to pitch when they reached the bigs.

Right?

 

[Scion]

no it's a result of a pitching coach who doesn't know how to maximize that talent. A good pitching coach will be able to mold that pure stuff into a good pitcher.

Is this guy for real?

 

[TootooTrain]

If they get bombed by New York and Boston in the next two series this team could be out of it by the end of May.

No team is out of it in may. Or june for that matter.

 

[Bad News Benning]

Besides today, he's actually been fairly decent.

I could hit off Francis and I haven't played or swung a bat in years. He's batting practice and the fact we rely on him in a 6-4 ball game is embarrassing. Entire organization should be embarrassed.

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Does anyone in here know how to pitch at all?

im left handed...good enough?

 

[Swervin81]

I could hit off Francis and I haven't played or swung a bat in years. He's batting practice and the fact we rely on him in a 6-4 ball game is embarrassing. Entire organization should be embarrassed.

I hit left handed and could tee off of Jeffrey Franchise.

 

[LaCarriere]

What established starters are available? Cole Hamels? maybe johnny cueto?

That solves 1/5th of the problem assuming we don't have to gut our lineup or bullpen even further to make a deal.

I don't know if Walker is the problem or not, but I think it's time to give somebody else a shot at managing the arms. Any replacement can't be any worse.

 

[Swervin81]

Does anyone in here know how to pitch at all?

I have a nice, hard, 60 MPH 4 seamer. Do I qualify?

 

[Bad News Benning]

Is this guy for real?

Every year it's the same ****. People making excuses for coaches or players who are incompetent. There's absolutely no accountability or standard of winning since 93. How can anyone be happy with this garbage?

 

[LaCarriere]

wow, jose can't even throw a ball still. could be DHing for a while.

Good thing you gunned that ball to first. You sure showed up Young who had nothing to do with you getting pitched at.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

wow, jose can't even throw a ball still. could be DHing for a while.

Good thing you gunned that ball to first. You sure showed up Young who had nothing to do with you getting pitched at.

EE playing first base everyday isn't and won't be a good thing either..

 

[Swervin81]

Pete Walker should be gone by now. I mean, someone's gotta be made an example for this ****show. This will probably end up costing AA his job after this year. He won't be able to witness the fruits of his drafting labor, but I'm fine with that, because with the length of time it takes prospects to develop, very few GM's do.

 

[TootooTrain]

Every year it's the same ****. People making excuses for coaches or players who are incompetent. There's absolutely no accountability or standard of winning since 93. How can anyone be happy with this garbage?

Disagreeing with your statements means we are happy with the product? Check the emotion at the door then maybe we can have a conversation.

 

[LaCarriere]

EE playing first base everyday isn't and won't be a good thing either..

Defensively he actually been OK. No errors in 13 games and he's snagged a hard hit balls his way.

I'm just pissed it keeps Smoak out of the lineup.

 

[Canada4Gold]

This is always a fun thread when the Jays are losing

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

I'm sorry Gibby and Walker. You likely will have to be sacrificial lambs.

Hire Oswaldo José "Ozzie" Guillén Barrios for the rest of the season after we fire Gibby

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Defensively he actually been OK. No errors in 13 games and he's snagged a hard hit balls his way.

I'm just pissed it keeps Smoak out of the lineup.

Well it was more so towards not wanting him to play in the field everyday for injury concerns, and he's better batting DH.

 

[Woodman19]

Every year it's the same ****. People making excuses for coaches or players who are incompetent. There's absolutely no accountability or standard of winning since 93. How can anyone be happy with this garbage?

Blaming the coaches is one thing, but in the end the players on the field have to perform and while you can likely blame some of it on coaching if its the entire staff its probably more to it than just 1 issue.

 

[Bad News Benning]

Disagreeing with your statements means we are happy with the product? Check the emotion at the door then maybe we can have a conversation.

Why shouldn't Walker be fired? He doesn't exactly have a long track record of success. He was hired because he was a former Jay and organizational man. He was not the best pitching coach available. You have a young staff that needs an experienced pitching coach with a long track record.

 

[Swervin81]

And people thought the White Sox would be good this year

Gave me a bad 2013 Jays vibe right from the start.

 

[Swervin81]

And now a Castro balk

 

[Bad News Benning]

Blaming the coaches is one thing, but in the end the players on the field have to perform and while you can likely blame some of it on coaching if its the entire staff its probably more to it than just 1 issue.

I don't think the coaches are all to blame but it's the coaches job to suggest adjustments and make pitchers better. You hear stories all the time around the league of pitching coaches making big impressions on young pitchers. How come when Walker goes out to the mound the pitchers don't get into a groove after a meeting? It doesn't seem to have any positive impact.

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Gibby cant do anything except watch this year self destruct

 

[TootooTrain]

Why shouldn't Walker be fired? He doesn't exactly have a long track record of success. He was hired because he was a former Jay and organizational man. He was not the best pitching coach available. You have a young staff that needs an experienced pitching coach with a long track record.

He might be a scapegoat but this goes deeper than coaching. Just like a manager can only do so much. I dont think you can attribute multiple players struggling at once to siimply coaching. One of many factors, perhaps. The players just need to be better.

 

[Woodman19]

Gibby keeps going to the crap arms lol, he must be trying to call out AA.