2014 QMJHL Draft (Sherbrooke)

[3 Minute Minor]

was he ever going to report ?

He wasn't planning on it obviously but like O'Leary said, sometimes he feels one way about his future and sometimes he feels the opposite. Understandably so, it's a big decision.

CB fans wouldn't want to hear it but if they picked Balmas at 5, they would have a much more convincing case seeing as those two are good friends from their time with Team Nova Scotia.

 

[Jack Bauer]

He wasn't planning on it obviously but like O'Leary said, sometimes he feels one way about his future and sometimes he feels the opposite. Understandably so, it's a big decision.

CB fans wouldn't want to hear it but if they picked Balmas at 5, they would have a much more convincing case seeing as those two are good friends from their time with Team Nova Scotia.

What a silly notion that is.

These kids have lots of friends from playing hockey.

The Eagles dealing with O'Leary is not impacted at all by who their 5th pick was. It's not like a kid from Sydney and a kid from Halifax are a packaged deal. To suggest so would be laughable.

Whether or not he shows up will depend on his parents expectations from the Eagles and his agents advice. Nothing more and nothing less. Even he himself says he flip flops on it...which of course he does as a 15yr old kid being presented with 2 attractive options.

These kids are past the stage of playing with their friends influencing their decision making.

 

[Jack Bauer]

was he ever going to report ?

He still might. I don't believe he has met with the team yet and any discussion has been informal. Until that happens it's just speculation, even the kid himself admits that.

For the position they are/were in it was definitely a good risk worth taking.

 

[PorkChopSandwiches]

He still might. I don't believe he has met with the team yet and any discussion has been informal. Until that happens it's just speculation, even the kid himself admits that.

For the position they are/were in it was definitely a good risk worth taking.

CBE is an attractive option for a family that is education focussed. They have arguably one of the best programs going for keeping their kids education up while they play. He would do well to seek their counsel.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

What a silly notion that is.

These kids have lots of friends from playing hockey.

The Eagles dealing with O'Leary is not impacted at all by who their 5th pick was. It's not like a kid from Sydney and a kid from Halifax are a packaged deal. To suggest so would be laughable.

Whether or not he shows up will depend on his parents expectations from the Eagles and his agents advice. Nothing more and nothing less. Even he himself says he flip flops on it...which of course he does as a 15yr old kid being presented with 2 attractive options.

These kids are past the stage of playing with their friends influencing their decision making.

Did I say they were a package deal?

Doesn't take a high IQ to figure out that if one of his good friends was on the roster trying to help lure him into reporting, he would be more likely to report than if he was only being recruited by management.

Family & friends influence the decisions of a lot of athletes at every level. Look at Mike Fisher going to Nashville, Nathan MacKinnon going to Halifax, LeBron James & Chris Bosh going to Miami.

Thinking athletes aren't influenced by friends & family is extremely naive.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Did I say they were a package deal?

Doesn't take a high IQ to figure out that if one of his good friends was on the roster trying to help lure him into reporting, he would be more likely to report than if he was only being recruited by management.

Family & friends influence the decisions of a lot of athletes at every level. Look at Mike Fisher going to Nashville, Nathan MacKinnon going to Halifax, LeBron James & Chris Bosh going to Miami.

Thinking athletes aren't influenced by friends & family is extremely naive.

Mike Fisher going to Nashville? He was traded there.

Lebron is family with Wade and Bosh? They were UFA's teaming up to try and win.

MacKinnon was traded to Halifax because it was the only team he'd play for and they had the assets to pull it off.

The situations are nothing like saying a kid from Halifax will go to CB because a buddy of his who is from CB is on the same team.

For those kids at that age it's about where they'll be playing and what they're getting out of playing. Whether they're playing with friends is irrelevant. How many of MacKinnon's friends did he play with in Halifax exactly? That had nothing to do with him reporting, it was about the opportunity the Mooseheads offered him.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Mike Fisher going to Nashville? He was traded there.

Lebron is family with Wade and Bosh? They were UFA's teaming up to try and win.

MacKinnon was traded to Halifax because it was the only team he'd play for and they had the assets to pull it off.

The situations are nothing like saying a kid from Halifax will go to CB because a buddy of his who is from CB is on the same team.

For those kids at that age it's about where they'll be playing and what they're getting out of playing. Whether they're playing with friends is irrelevant. How many of MacKinnon's friends did he play with in Halifax exactly? That had nothing to do with him reporting, it was about the opportunity the Mooseheads offered him.

Halifax wasn't the only team....

They had the best package though.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Mike Fisher going to Nashville? He was traded there.

Lebron is family with Wade and Bosh? They were UFA's teaming up to try and win.

MacKinnon was traded to Halifax because it was the only team he'd play for and they had the assets to pull it off.

The situations are nothing like saying a kid from Halifax will go to CB because a buddy of his who is from CB is on the same team.

For those kids at that age it's about where they'll be playing and what they're getting out of playing. Whether they're playing with friends is irrelevant. How many of MacKinnon's friends did he play with in Halifax exactly? That had nothing to do with him reporting, it was about the opportunity the Mooseheads offered him.

Mike Fishers wife is Carrie Underwood... Everyone and their mother knew he requested a trade to Nashville and Ottawa granted that trade.

Bosh, LBJ, and D-Wade came up with the idea of the big 3 while away at the Olympics with USA. They were known as friends for a while before Miami.

MacKinnon wanted to play home in front of friends & family. Did I say he went to Halifax to play with friends?

You said these kids aren't influenced by friends and family but that's who influences them the most. Athletes at all levels are influenced by friends and families. Will they say it publicly? Probably not. But again, it's extremely naive to think that 16 year old kids aren't influenced by their friends and family. Hell even O'Leary says his family really wants him to follow the NCAA route & get an education.

 

[ns64]

Mike Fishers wife is Carrie Underwood... Everyone and their mother knew he requested a trade to Nashville and Ottawa granted that trade.

Bosh, LBJ, and D-Wade came up with the idea of the big 3 while away at the Olympics with USA. They were known as friends for a while before Miami.

MacKinnon wanted to play home in front of friends & family. Did I say he went to Halifax to play with friends?

You said these kids aren't influenced by friends and family but that's who influences them the most. Athletes at all levels are influenced by friends and families. Will they say it publicly? Probably not. But again, it's extremely naive to think that 16 year old kids aren't influenced by their friends and family. Hell even O'Leary says his family really wants him to follow the NCAA route & get an education.

Maybe Dumont can work some magic on him over the summer . There is no language barrier as there was with Roy last summer. I have watched the above mentioned video I think that is just a standard answer until the decision is made.

What is the compensation CB will get if he is a no show ?

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Maybe Dumont can work some magic on him over the summer . There is no language barrier as there was with Roy last summer. I have watched the above mentioned video I think that is just a standard answer until the decision is made.

What is the compensation CB will get if he is a no show ?

Honestly don't know because it looks like they typo'd saying same round 1 round later lol It's either 1 pick later than they picked O'Leary or the same pick but in the 2nd round.

10.15.3 Compensatory draft pick process for players selected 5 through 18 in the first round

QMJHL Member Teams shall receive compensation for a first round 16 year old player selected in positions 5 through 18 of the QMJHL Priority Selection Draft and who do not report to their hockey club based on the current League definition of a defected player.

Such compensation model shall be:

-Compensation shall be a first round selection in the same position, one pick later at the following QMJHL Priority Selection Draft if such player is traded, for draft picks only, prior to September 15th of the following season.
-If such player is traded at the Christmas trading period in the year immediately following the QMJHL Priority Selection Draft in which such player was selected, the team shall receive the compensatory draft pick in the same round position, one round later in the following QMJHL Priority Selection Draft.
-If the team exercises their right to the compensatory draft pick, same round position one round later, such team must declare their intentions one week prior to the QMJHL Priority Selection Draft and such player re-enters the current QMJHL Priority Selection Process.
-If the team should choose to keep the playing rights to such player they shall not receive any compensation.

http://theqmjhl.ca/article/board-of-governors-changes-draft-compensation-guidelines/116425

 

[Jack Bauer]

Mike Fishers wife is Carrie Underwood... Everyone and their mother knew he requested a trade to Nashville and Ottawa granted that trade.

Bosh, LBJ, and D-Wade came up with the idea of the big 3 while away at the Olympics with USA. They were known as friends for a while before Miami.

MacKinnon wanted to play home in front of friends & family. Did I say he went to Halifax to play with friends?

You said these kids aren't influenced by friends and family but that's who influences them the most. Athletes at all levels are influenced by friends and families. Will they say it publicly? Probably not. But again, it's extremely naive to think that 16 year old kids aren't influenced by their friends and family. Hell even O'Leary says his family really wants him to follow the NCAA route & get an education.

At the end of the day it comes down to this:

O'Leary goes to CB if they offer him the better deal.

Whether it's Balmas or Dubois as their other pick, that pick is completely irrelevant to the decision making process he and his family will have with an advisor/agemt.

If it was as easy as picking a bunch of friends to get high profile kids to report teams would do that.

It's not at all like any of your scenarios when you look at the situation and options presented. His best bet in my opinion is to make no decision right now, go to Eagles camp for 48 hours, and decide in a year on major junior vs college.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Maybe Dumont can work some magic on him over the summer . There is no language barrier as there was with Roy last summer. I have watched the above mentioned video I think that is just a standard answer until the decision is made.

What is the compensation CB will get if he is a no show ?

A pick in the same round 5 spots below.

Since he was 14th the Eagles would get a 2015 19th overall 1st rounder if they give up his rights.

The other options are trade or keep him and hope to change his mind.

 

[MikeyP]

According to the Rosters I have seen from the Chicago Steel (USHL) camp, he is there this weekend. Obviously doesn't mean he is playing there for certain.

https://twitter.com/ChiSteelInsider/status/479624540415201282

Crapola. Well perhaps he will come to camp here too and make a decision?

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Ironic an Eagles fans fails to see the connection when their team has Lazarev/Svechnikov and drafted Dubois/L'Italien & Corbeil/Beaudin

 

[OMG]

have any of you even seen him play??? everyone is talking like he is the next coming of christ....26 games 2g 3 a 5 pts?

 

[Jack Bauer]

Ironic an Eagles fans fails to see the connection when their team has Lazarev/Svechnikov and drafted Dubois/L'Italien & Corbeil/Beaudin

So if the Eagles trade O'Leary to Charlottetown he reports without any special deal just to play with his 'friend' Balmas?

You're drafting the Quebec kids from the same midget teams so of course some will know each other.

The Euros are the only case where it applies but that still didn't get Svechnikov here last year because he had better opportunity elsewhere.

For O'Leary his decision on reporting to Cape Breton is not dependant on who the Eagles picked at #5. It's completely dependant on the situation and terms with Eagles can offer him.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

So if the Eagles trade O'Leary to Charlottetown he reports without any special deal just to play with his 'friend' Balmas?

You're drafting the Quebec kids from the same midget teams so of course some will know each other.

The Euros are the only case where it applies but that still didn't get Svechnikov here last year because he had better opportunity elsewhere.

For O'Leary his decision on reporting to Cape Breton is not dependant on who the Eagles picked at #5. It's completely dependant on the situation and terms with Eagles can offer him.

Did I say them picking Balmas would have made it a guarantee that he'd report or that his decision on reporting to CB was dependent on who they picked at #5? CB probably didn't even know O'Leary would be available at 13.

All I said they would have a more convincing case. His friend would be in his ear trying to get him to report, something they don't have without Balmas on their roster. It's a simple observation but you just jumped to 100 different conclusions

 

[Islanders78]

If the Eagles picked Balmas and also Getson,( as Charlottetown did) perhaps O'Leary would have more to think on. All great friends.