Rumor: 2014/2015 Season Trade Rumours and Proposals VIII - The Road to Tradelemania

[ChocolateLeclaire]

What are the possibilities we put in an offer on Kane? He's having some serious issues on Winnipeg withe coach staff at the momment. I think Dave Cameron could coach him into being a more mature professional. He's exactly the type of player Murray's looking for minus the attitude.

I know Cameron's got another year left on his deal but there is zero guarantee he comes back next season with a new GM in place. Not only that, but the Senators have got to sell tickets. Going into next year with a coach that kept them at the same sub .500 record as the guy he replaced isn't going to move the meter.

And no offense to Cameron, but Paul Maurice is an AMAZING head coach and very well-known for his ability to connect with players. If he's got an issue with Kane, then he very well may be uncoachable. Not to mention that Kane has allusions of being a "big market player". He doesn't want Winnipeg because it's too small potatoes for him. Why would he be happy in Ottawa?

Besides, I hear tons of stories from family back home in Winnipeg about Kane around town. DO NOT WANT.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

May be wrong but didn't cameron coach Kane at the world juniors? (Not that this mean anything, just wondering if there is a connection)

I think The answer is no.

 

[UnHappyDude]

and whitey also said earlier that when he was on the team and kane was a rookie there were some real issues with the him and the veterans. could have just been that kane was young and not nhl ready, but from whitey was saying it just didn't sound good.

Yeah true. But this was because he was a puck hog, I think. He said he was rushed into the NHL and When asked about his personallity he said there wern't any problems. (if I remember correctly)

 

[Backpass]

If Neil gets traded, we may end-up only getting a draft pick and at best a second round. What we need is a good young goaltender that can help us in three or four years down the road. At present we have Andersson and Lehner and who knows what going to happen with them in the next years.

After those two goalies we have Hammond and Mannino in the AHL and I don't see them making NHL rooster. So what do we have after that?

 

[The Lewler]

If Neil gets traded, we may end-up only getting a draft pick and at best a second round. What we need is a good young goaltender that can help us in three or four years down the road. At present we have Andersson and Lehner and who knows what going to happen with them in the next years.

After those two goalies we have Hammond and Mannino in the AHL and I don't see them making NHL rooster. So what do we have after that?

I'm sure looking for a new prospect G is part of their draft wish list this year.

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

If Neil gets traded, we may end-up only getting a draft pick and at best a second round. What we need is a good young goaltender that can help us in three or four years down the road. At present we have Andersson and Lehner and who knows what going to happen with them in the next years.

After those two goalies we have Hammond and Mannino in the AHL and I don't see them making NHL rooster. So what do we have after that?

Chris Driedger is in the ECHL right now and the organization seems pretty high on him. He'll be in the AHL next year.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

If Neil gets traded, we may end-up only getting a draft pick and at best a second round. What we need is a good young goaltender that can help us in three or four years down the road. At present we have Andersson and Lehner and who knows what going to happen with them in the next years.

After those two goalies we have Hammond and Mannino in the AHL and I don't see them making NHL rooster. So what do we have after that?

You use the second-rounder acquired from the Neil trade to pick up a good young goaltender? I don't see how those points are mutually exclusive.

 

[Prattalot]

And no offense to Cameron, but Paul Maurice is an AMAZING head coach and very well-known for his ability to connect with players. If he's got an issue with Kane, then he very well may be uncoachable. Not to mention that Kane has allusions of being a "big market player". He doesn't want Winnipeg because it's too small potatoes for him. Why would he be happy in Ottawa?

Besides, I hear tons of stories from family back home in Winnipeg about Kane around town. DO NOT WANT.

As a Sens & Jets fan I agree 100 %. Half of me wants him gone from the Jets...and the other half says but not to the Sens

 

[Benjamin]

If Neil gets traded, we may end-up only getting a draft pick and at best a second round. What we need is a good young goaltender that can help us in three or four years down the road. At present we have Andersson and Lehner and who knows what going to happen with them in the next years.

After those two goalies we have Hammond and Mannino in the AHL and I don't see them making NHL rooster. So what do we have after that?

Chris Driedger is in the ECHL right now and the organization seems pretty high on him. He'll be in the AHL next year.

Don't forget Hogberg.

 

[Micklebot]

Chris Driedger is in the ECHL right now and the organization seems pretty high on him. He'll be in the AHL next year.

Don't we also have Hogberg in the SHL? I don't think we've signed him yet, but as a European prospect, I don't thing there is really the rush.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Simmer said that "Kanes success is predicated on his agressiveness and athleticism: speed, shot and grit. His flaw is is hockey sense, or ability to use other players around him. He puts up the blinders" They paralleled this with Daigle

This doesn't sound very good but I have to say I think the sens could use a guy like that. We have lots of "Hockey sense" guys but someone who just dictates the game, not so much. Not sure if he is a longterm solution though, i think his body is gonna give up at some point.

Ill also add that I really enjoyed watching him knock out matt cooke

Kane, Turris, and Ryan could make a hell of a line. Turris and Ryan are both brilliant when it comes to hockey IQ, all Kane would have to do is go wherever they tell him to and score goals.

 

[BrawlFan]

Who I want Traded:
- Neil
- Phillips
- Greening
- Smith
- Legwand
- Michalek

Who I will be okay with being traded if it works out:
- Chiasson
- Methot
- Weircoch
- Gryba

Who I think will actually be traded:
- Legwand

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

Don't we also have Hogberg in the SHL? I don't think we've signed him yet, but as a European prospect, I don't thing there is really the rush.

I forgot about the Hog.

Or maybe I just blanked him out because I'm already dreading future HF conversations where some people demand he get all the starts because he's Swedish and has a nickname...

 

[Zorf]

Who I want Traded:
- Neil
- Phillips
- Greening
- Smith
- Legwand
- Michalek

Who I will be okay with being traded if it works out:
- Chiasson
- Methot
- Weircoch
- Gryba

Who I think will actually be traded:
- Legwand

I would be so happy if Legwand got traded, but I can't see it happening. He's signed through next season, and I think he has a limited NTC. I have no doubt he'd waive to get out of Ottawa, but I'm sure all 29 other GMs see that he's not good enough to be a regular player on a non-playoff team. I don't think many want to take the risk of having him on the roster next season.

If I was Murray and someone offered a deal that wasn't a bad contract coming back, I'd take it and run. Don't care if it's just for future considerations.

 

[SpezDispenser]

If we could have a civilized trade negotiation with Toronto, I'd LOVE to get JVR.

 

[Benjamin]

I like Legwand but I'd trade him so fast to make room.

 

[Backpass]

Forgot about those two guys. Hopefully that they make it up to the NHL in three or four years, or even before depending on where Lenher will be by that time.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I would be so happy if Legwand got traded, but I can't see it happening. He's signed through next season, and I think he has a limited NTC. I have no doubt he'd waive to get out of Ottawa, but I'm sure all 29 other GMs see that he's not good enough to be a regular player on a non-playoff team. I don't think many want to take the risk of having him on the roster next season.

If I was Murray and someone offered a deal that wasn't a bad contract coming back, I'd take it and run. Don't care if it's just for future considerations.

No, no, no. Legwand is a seasoned veteran caught in a weird situation in Ottawa where his linemates are the craps on most nights. I'm not saying he's been good here, he hasn't, but a playoff team looking for depth down the middle and a no maintenance guy to bring in will pay IMO. I'm thinking a 3rd round pick - even with the extra year.

Or you don't do it IMO, you wait till the summer. You don't give Legwand away.

Now Phillips on the other hand...

 

[Backpass]

I would be so happy if Legwand got traded, but I can't see it happening. He's signed through next season, and I think he has a limited NTC. I have no doubt he'd waive to get out of Ottawa, but I'm sure all 29 other GMs see that he's not good enough to be a regular player on a non-playoff team. I don't think many want to take the risk of having him on the roster next season.

If I was Murray and someone offered a deal that wasn't a bad contract coming back, I'd take it and run. Don't care if it's just for future considerations.

I'm with you on this, picking-up Legwand as a UFA last year was a mistake. If they trade him, it would be a big relief and an opportunity for our young players to get more ice time. I see Legwand good enough to play on a forth line of a play-off team, but that not what teams are looking for, unless they want to get a combo like Neil and Legwand.

 

[BrawlFan]

No, no, no. Legwand is a seasoned veteran caught in a weird situation in Ottawa where his linemates are the craps on most nights. I'm not saying he's been good here, he hasn't, but a playoff team looking for depth down the middle and a no maintenance guy to bring in will pay IMO. I'm thinking a 3rd round pick - even with the extra year.

Or you don't do it IMO, you wait till the summer. You don't give Legwand away.

Now Phillips on the other hand...

Much easier to trade Legwand than Phillips. Legwand is a seson removed from 50 points and is playing on a bad team in Ottawa. He can help a team that is young and trades away a center to shed long term salary cap.

For example take LA:

They are able to trade Mike Richards for a pick or something, then they want to go deep in the playoffs and take on Legwand for next to nothing because he is at most one more season and then gone.

ANOTHER example is a rebuilding team with a bad contract.

 

[TheNewEra]

No, no, no. Legwand is a seasoned veteran caught in a weird situation in Ottawa where his linemates are the craps on most nights. I'm not saying he's been good here, he hasn't, but a playoff team looking for depth down the middle and a no maintenance guy to bring in will pay IMO. I'm thinking a 3rd round pick - even with the extra year.

Or you don't do it IMO, you wait till the summer. You don't give Legwand away.

Now Phillips on the other hand...

i would give legwand away, just to free up the roster spot and having the ability to spend the money elsewhere

we need more top line/top 6 talent and maybe a top 4 LHD (depends on what happens with methot)

getting a 2nd or 4th round pick or future considerations we get in return for legwand doesnt help us as much as that extra 3.5 million will help us in potential trade talks or FA signings imo

 

[SpezDispenser]

i would give legwand away, just to free up the roster spot and having the ability to spend the money elsewhere

we need more top line/top 6 talent and maybe a top 4 LHD (depends on what happens with methot)

getting a 2nd or 4th round pick or future considerations we get in return for legwand doesnt help us as much as that extra 3.5 million will help us in potential trade talks or FA signings imo

I don't think you need to worry about spending Legwand's money elsewhere, as I believe he'll be gone by the summer latest. Plus, it's a little bit of a wakeup call to Melnyk that Murray's built a solid team of the future, but we need to spend money on a top line player and Methot or a replacement to continue our ascension, and having seen him spend last off-season, I think he'll spend whether or not Legwand's money is on the books.

 

[TheNewEra]

I don't think you need to worry about spending Legwand's money elsewhere, as I believe he'll be gone by the summer latest. Plus, it's a little bit of a wakeup call to Melnyk that Murray's built a solid team of the future, but we need to spend money on a top line player and Methot or a replacement to continue our ascension, and having seen him spend last off-season, I think he'll spend whether or not Legwand's money is on the books.

this is never a guarantee and even if we do spend more money, i doubt we go from the lowest payroll to a cap team. Maybe we spend 5 to 10 million more (in the offseason) which is probably going to be used towards resigning our young RFA's. I rather get rid of him now, make sure we have that flexibility (might help with resigning methot instead of trading him at the TD) and it frees up a spot where we can give another a young player from bingo a shot (Grant/Prince/Robinson/Peumpel)

if he is guaranteed gone in the summer its something but the downside to that is that it may not allow us to resign methot and it doesnt allow us to give a young player some experience. Most of Legwands points come on the PP and our PP is crap. Im not saying we should blame him but im saying we can sell him as a pp specialist and at the same time see if someone can replace that 10 points on the PP

 

[TheNewEra]

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago
Further to @DarrenDreger's tweet, also hearing Jets taking calls on Evander Kane. Big name to have on trade market for sure.

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Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 2m2 minutes ago
Trying to think up fits for Evander Kane. You could have a win-now Pens team or team looking at future like TO, Ott, Calgary, Buff & Edm.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 10m10 minutes ago
Many questions around Evander Kane and the Jets. Some medical issues to be resolved, but teams are calling and Jets are listening...hard.

 

[SpezDispenser]

this is never a guarantee and even if we do spend more money, i doubt we go from the lowest payroll to a cap team. Maybe we spend 5 to 10 million more (in the offseason) which is probably going to be used towards resigning our young RFA's. I rather get rid of him now, make sure we have that flexibility (might help with resigning methot instead of trading him at the TD) and it frees up a spot where we can give another a young player from bingo a shot (Grant/Prince/Robinson/Peumpel)

if he is guaranteed gone in the summer its something but the downside to that is that it may not allow us to resign methot and it doesnt allow us to give a young player some experience. Most of Legwands points come on the PP and our PP is crap. Im not saying we should blame him but im saying we can sell him as a pp specialist and at the same time see if someone can replace that 10 points on the PP

I really think Melnyk's given the green light to pay another Bobby Ryan type player and either re-sign Methot, or replace him as well as paying our RFAs.

Time will tell, but one thing's for sure, Melnyk is gonna miss the playoff revenue and he's already getting hit by people not attending games as much as they were previously. I bet he spends this off-season - in the vicinity of 11-13 million dollars on a forward and Methot/or replacement, then takes care of our RFAs.