Rumor: 2014/2015 Season Trade Rumours and Proposals Episode VI - The Tradening
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DrunkUncleDenis
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This might actually get it done. Doubt it, though. No way im giving up the '15 1st AND Lehner AND Lazar. Two of the three, okay maybe.
But knowing Edmonton that's the asking price. I don't want to get robbed blind, even if Hall is the best player in the deal.
StefanW
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Hall was the #1 overall in 2010, and has gone through his first few developmental years in the league. His value actually would be very high, and I would not think twice about trading all three of those pieces in a package for him.
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Prefer RNH only cause I think he is a number 1 C and would be ****ing gorgeous with Ryan or Hoffman/Stone
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Hall would be a beaut though. Don't know if I wanna trade Lehner AND 1st in 2015. Would move Lazar+2015 though.
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Chiasson-Zibanejad-Lazar
Hall would be a beaut though. Don't know if I wanna trade Lehner AND 1st in 2015. Would move Lazar+2015 though.
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Edmonton isn't going to trade RNH so we can forget about that (unless it's swap Zib for RNH)
Lazar/2015st + Lehner + Weircioch for Hall seems reasonnable: that hits all the needs for Edmonton (prospect, goalie, help on D)
I'd rather trade Lazar than the 1st for sure
Lazar/2015st + Lehner + Weircioch for Hall seems reasonnable: that hits all the needs for Edmonton (prospect, goalie, help on D)
I'd rather trade Lazar than the 1st for sure
Same here.
Our 1st this year will get a better prospect then Lazar. Plus the Oilers will probably overvalue Lazar for obvious reasons.
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Lazar is a perfect fit for Edmonton: local ties, a centre, good defensively and leadership qualities
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DrunkUncleDenis
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Man people are getting way too down on Chiasson. Outside of last year where he had mono half the year, this is almost the longest hockey season hes played in 5-6 years since college hockey.
Hes a big guy, its going to take some time to adjust to the NHL, improve his endurance, skating, and so on.
Small sample size I know, but people are already forgetting some of the great tools he's displayed throughout the year. He was our best forward for like a 10 game stretch. He drives the net, works the boards, hustles, will drop the gloves, and has a very underrated playmaking ability.
People are throwing him into proposals like hes Greening or something.
Give him some time, let him develop slowly on the 3rd line and work on his defensive game, and I bet you get rewarded with a pretty good top 6 tweener type who with the right chemistry, could score 50 points or so.
Hes a big guy, its going to take some time to adjust to the NHL, improve his endurance, skating, and so on.
Small sample size I know, but people are already forgetting some of the great tools he's displayed throughout the year. He was our best forward for like a 10 game stretch. He drives the net, works the boards, hustles, will drop the gloves, and has a very underrated playmaking ability.
People are throwing him into proposals like hes Greening or something.
Give him some time, let him develop slowly on the 3rd line and work on his defensive game, and I bet you get rewarded with a pretty good top 6 tweener type who with the right chemistry, could score 50 points or so.
StefanW
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You have to give something good to get something good, and I have no problem with Lazar having great success in Edmonton. All I care about is Ottawa getting better.
To put my statements in context though, I was never one of those people who were horrified at the thought that the first round pick we gave up for Ryan was higher than expected because the team was poor last season. If the deal is fair at the moment the deal is made I stop caring about what happens to the other side after the fact.
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Super Cake
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If Edmonton trade Hall it's definitely not going to be for a package of futures. They need help now. Not to trade for players/picks that will make an impact 3-5+ years down the road.
Lazar has less value than our 2015 1st, in my eyes anyway
Wiercioch = a 3rd, 4th right now?
Lehner = maybe a low first?
Not enough here for Hall
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It isn't about value
It's about how much the Oilers want to turn things around
They have two options:
-Trade one of their big guns to kickstart the process
-Draft and let the prospects mature and go from there
Depending on how much Edmonton want to start turning things around sooner rather than later, a matter in which I would believe ownership to have a considerable amount of say, then it becomes supply and demand
We probably have some of the best pieces Edmonton would be looking for: are the pieces we have and are willing to part with enough to land a player like Hall? That's up to Edmonton's needs, not so much the value
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I would wait until the draft before trying to get Hall. If we are still sitting around 10th overall by the draft, i would consider including our 1st in for the trade.
Yes this draft is great, but i extremely doubt that any player that is drafted out of the top 5 will really be able to provide an immediate help to the team. Getting Hall however would immediately help out the team.
Yes this draft is great, but i extremely doubt that any player that is drafted out of the top 5 will really be able to provide an immediate help to the team. Getting Hall however would immediately help out the team.
Hall is the perfect player to target right now. He's a high end player stuck on a terrible team. On a normal team he's a top 10 winger in the game at age 23 and is signed to an amazing contract.
I'd offer something like Lazar, Lehner, 2015 1st as the base, with a guy like Michalek/Legwand added on our side to balance the cap coming in and going out, and maybe Fasth/Scrivens added to their side to replace Lehner.
I'd offer something like Lazar, Lehner, 2015 1st as the base, with a guy like Michalek/Legwand added on our side to balance the cap coming in and going out, and maybe Fasth/Scrivens added to their side to replace Lehner.
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To be honest guys, as much as I would adore a Hall on this team. AKA a bonafide top 5-7 winger in the game, do we really wanna risk trading a potential top 5 goalie in the game and mess up with Anderson/Lehner tandem?
Anderson/Lehner is almost exactly, exactlyyy like Thomas/Rask a couple years back.
There's such a huge risk in dealing Lehner and then having Anderson falter with no back-up plan.
Tbh, I believe it's easier to acquire a number 1 goalie than a Hall but man this is really really risky....
Lehner has average starter potential at his worst.
With that being said,
Hall-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan
Is a beautiful top 6.... especially with Karlsson feeding both winger sets. MacArthur with Pageau on 3rd line is also brilliant for added depth.
I'd rather deal:
Lazar+1st+Ceci
Yea, Ceci is on track to being amazing but we already have Karlsson to soften any type of blow cause we already have a bonafide number 1 D. I also think that gets it done.
Anderson/Lehner is almost exactly, exactlyyy like Thomas/Rask a couple years back.
There's such a huge risk in dealing Lehner and then having Anderson falter with no back-up plan.
Tbh, I believe it's easier to acquire a number 1 goalie than a Hall but man this is really really risky....
Lehner has average starter potential at his worst.
With that being said,
Hall-Turris-Stone
Hoffman-Zibanejad-Ryan
Is a beautiful top 6.... especially with Karlsson feeding both winger sets. MacArthur with Pageau on 3rd line is also brilliant for added depth.
I'd rather deal:
Lazar+1st+Ceci
Yea, Ceci is on track to being amazing but we already have Karlsson to soften any type of blow cause we already have a bonafide number 1 D. I also think that gets it done.
Samsquanch
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Absolutely not. I'd consider swapping Cowen for Lehner, but no way in hell are we letting go of Lazar, Ceci, and the 2015 1st. That's 3 ultra solid blue chip pieces. Lehner and Cowen both have that wildcard factor.
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