Prospect Info: 2014-2015 Rangers Prospects Thread *Part III* (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 3/22)

[Doctyl]

Buchnevich scored the GWG today (3-1) as his team swept the series against the #2 seed. So far in 6 games he has 7 goals and 5 assists.

I was clicking around and saw that Shestyorkin played for SKA-1946 on March 13th, his team won in a shootout(3-2). He stopped 30 of 32, .938 SV%.

He also played today, his team won 5-1, he stopped 28 of 29 shots for a .966 SV%

Where is Buchnevich playing? Isn't Severstal's season over?

 

[gary laser eyes]

Where is Buchnevich playing? Isn't Severstal's season over?

For Severstal's junior team in the MHL playoffs. They have swept their first 2 series and are now waiting for their opponent in the last 8.

 

[Ola]

Well Buchnevich is playing on his junior team, which isn't comparable to the CHL leagues. He spent all year in the world's second best league and is now playing a bunch of kids. His dominance is to be expected, really. It's basically like he's playing Junior A-level competition.

He is playing like at the level Kreider did before going to college or something. Or what do I know about overage rules they have there, maybe it's a bit stronger. But Russia have no significant depth at the youth level, they live and die on professional hockey schools that really works their talent extremely hard at a young age. I think there are more 12 y/os playing hockey in Sweden with a pop of 9m. Their top junior league cannot be very good. Must be way below the CHL leagues at least.

What do I know, but it screams of a team abusing a player that wants out, idiotic ...

 

[Ola]

I've never seen Fogarty play. I liked his size on those pics. Being that big is always good.

 

[Raspewtin]

I've never seen Fogarty play. I liked his size on those pics. Being that big is always good.

Neither have I, and you weren't kidding.......kid is friggin huge.

 

[Mikos87]

I've never seen Fogarty play. I liked his size on those pics. Being that big is always good.

I've seen a couple of ND games... he's big and athletic enough to have a pro hockey career. If this was the year 2000 you'd have him lined up at a future 3rd liner.

I don't know if the hands or hockey IQ is on a NHL level, but he's athletic enough where he'd get a look in the AHL.

I'm not 100% sure of this, but he is 4 years removed from his draft. Can he become a UFA this off season or would he have to wait until next year?

He played in the BCHL after getting drafted.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Well Buchnevich is playing on his junior team, which isn't comparable to the CHL leagues. He spent all year in the world's second best league and is now playing a bunch of kids. His dominance is to be expected, really. It's basically like he's playing Junior A-level competition.

We all thought Duclair would "Dominate" when he went back to playing with kids also, but that didnt really happen

 

[nyr2k2]

We all thought Duclair would "Dominate" when he went back to playing with kids also, but that didnt really happen

Right. I guess my point with Buchnevich's MHL stats is that it would be far more noteworthy if he wasn't dominating.

 

[ArPanet]

Kind of feel like Nieves won't get much out of another season playing for Michigan.

 

[cwede]

I've seen a couple of ND games... he's big and athletic enough to have a pro hockey career. If this was the year 2000 you'd have him lined up at a future 3rd liner.

I don't know if the hands or hockey IQ is on a NHL level, but he's athletic enough where he'd get a look in the AHL.

I'm not 100% sure of this, but he is 4 years removed from his draft. Can he become a UFA this off season or would he have to wait until next year?

He played in the BCHL after getting drafted.

what we believe we have learned is that
- if formally he announces he is leaving school, he can be FA in June,
but if he stays at Notre Dame, we have his rights until Aug '16 as with any other graduating college player

 

[cwede]

Kind of feel like Nieves won't get much out of another season playing for Michigan.

i humbly disagree on 2 counts -
He hasn't gotten consistent yet.
Also, they are poised for a very strong season next year. Of their top players, only Hyman is graduating (also Jets draftee D-man Serville)

but you may be right

 

[Algernop Kreider]

I'm so bummed right now; I'm in Ann Arbor but I have to leave before the Michigan vs. Wisconsin game tomorrow. I really wanted to see Nieves.

 

[Steve Kournianos]

Kind of feel like Nieves won't get much out of another season playing for Michigan.

You're right...with Kyle Connor heading there and Larkin already a No. 1 he's either going to play wing or center 3rd line.

 

[Steve Kournianos]

Power move down the wing by Tambellini for his 47th. Nice goal. 1-1 in the 3rd.

Iverson has an assist in 3-2 lead over Spokane. Now has 27 pts in last 35 games playing mostly 3rd line duty.

 

[Steve Kournianos]

Tambo and Iverson both with a goal and assist tonight.

Iverson has been screwing with the Spokane goalie all night in so many ways.

 

[The Gloaming]

Halverson named best puckhandling goalie in the OHL Coaches' poll.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Halverson named best puckhandling goalie in the OHL Coaches' poll.

That means Halverson>>>Hank and Talbot combined.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Tambo and Iverson both with a goal and assist tonight.

Iverson has been screwing with the Spokane goalie all night in so many ways.

How many games do they have left in the regular season? Would like to see Tambellini break the 50g 100pt mark.

 

[cwede]

How many games do they have left in the regular season? Would like to see Tambellini break the 50g 100pt mark.

2 more games, season ends this weekend
http://whl.ca/schedule/359/116/fullyear

 

[Trxjw]

Glad Iverson is picking it up. I think he was shocked by not ending up with a larger role on the team, but the Winterhawks are pretty loaded up front and he just fits the team better as a 3rd liner. Excited to see if he can keep the momentum rolling through the rest of the year.

 

[cwede]

if i read standings correctly, Nejezchleb is only Junior player not in playoffs, so free to ATO with Hartford next week.
His +/- is terrible, but all his teammates have bad +/- too, only 2 guys w better than 2 have only played 16 and 9 games. Meanwhile, despite his short season, he is 15th in league in PPG with 10 (only 2 guys have >14), Tambo only has 8
Some snipe can only help at Hartford

 

[nyr2k2]

I was down on Iverson, which was a mistake, particularly coming from me--"Mr. Patience." He has definitely had a good season in the second half and I'm eager to see what he can do next year.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Well Buchnevich is playing on his junior team, which isn't comparable to the CHL leagues. He spent all year in the world's second best league and is now playing a bunch of kids. His dominance is to be expected, really. It's basically like he's playing Junior A-level competition.

Well, first MHL is U22, not U20 as CHL. And second, if you look at the stats of some Russian CHLers who came from the MHL, you will see their CHL stats are much higher. It's harder to score in the MHL nowadays than in the CHL.

BTW most top Russian prospects for 2015 draft didn't even have a PPG in the MHL. Dergachyov for example scored 39 pts in 45 games. Of course he's 1 year 5 months younger than Buchnevich, but still. But I bet Dergachyov would be well above a PPG in the CHL.

 

[nyr2k2]

Iverson's point totals by month (game played in parentheses):

2 (3)
3 (12)
5 (12)
5 (10)
6 (12)
8 (9)
9 (7) so far

His overall numbers will not indicate a progression (statistically), but it's clear to see a progression as the season has worn on.

 

[nyr2k2]

Well, first MHL is U22, not U20 as CHL. Second, if you look at the stats of some Russian CHLers who came from the MHL, you will see their CHL stats are much higher. It's harder to score in the MHL nowadays than in the CHL. And third, it's playoffs where stats are usualy significantly lower than in the regular.

BTW most top Russian prospects for 2015 draft didn't even have a PPG in the MHL. Dergachyov for example scored 39 pts in 45 games. Of course he's 1 year 5 months younger than Buchnevich, but still. But I bet Dergachyov would be well above a PPG in the CHL.

The top Russian propsects rarely play in the MHL after the age of 17 or so. Look back at the past five drafts--what top Russian prospects spent time in the MHL? Scherbak, but again, at age 17. Goldbin--age 16. Nichuskin--9 games at age 17. Yakupov, Grigorenko, same thing. The real high-end prospects won't ever spend any time there past age 18 because it's not a challenge and isn't optimal for their development, and the league as a whole isn't filled with guys that would have legitimate NHL aspirations.

Again, there's nothing wrong with Buchnevich's participation and production in the MHL playoffs, but for a guy of his caliber that's a week away from his 20th birthday, it's absolutely expected that he'd dominate down there. I'm glad he's performing well there, but it's not "impressive" in the proper context.