2009 HFNHL Free Agency Announced

[The old geezer]

Any overage player can be signed for the max of $8M and the rest will have a rookie max of $900K. I am not sure what the cut off date is...maybe Reggie can answer this one.

I've really been wondering about this and I know we've never been able to find a definitive answer to if the max applies for 25+ players. That said, using overage europeans as an example, I don't recall any of them coming over for more than 1 year at rookie max. If I recall even Backstrom came over cheap on a 1 year deal.

Are we really going to have GM's open to offering multi million dollar contracts to these type guys?

 

[Wildman]

I've really been wondering about this and I know we've never been able to find a definitive answer to if the max applies for 25+ players. That said, using overage europeans as an example, I don't recall any of them coming over for more than 1 year at rookie max. If I recall even Backstrom came over cheap on a 1 year deal.

Are we really going to have GM's open to offering multi million dollar contracts to these type guys?

That is waht we did last season with Jonas Frogren and many others. If team has deep pockets and are willing to pay than why not.

 

[The old geezer]

We cannot sign european newcomers (signed first contract with NHL team), but americans/canadians we can, why is that?

I don't think this part of your question has been answered (maybe I missed it).

The reason is the European players are still draft eligible up to 22. So even if an NHL team has signed a 21yo to come over from Europe (presumably someone they drafted) he is still draft eligible in the HFNHL and therefore cannot be signed as a FA.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

I've really been wondering about this and I know we've never been able to find a definitive answer to if the max applies for 25+ players. That said, using overage europeans as an example, I don't recall any of them coming over for more than 1 year at rookie max. If I recall even Backstrom came over cheap on a 1 year deal.

Are we really going to have GM's open to offering multi million dollar contracts to these type guys?

In the case of Backstrom, the 1 year deal was simply a way to solve a contract negotiation. He was clearly elite, so he wanted top $'s, but he was on your prospect list rotting away making no money, so willing to play for cheap for one season. Obviously a different scenario than a free agent.

Yes, we allow multi-year deals for overage Euro's >25. There are pros and cons to both both rules (1 year only v multi-year) and in this case, best to follow the NHL which is what we typically do.

 

[The old geezer]

In the case of Backstrom, the 1 year deal was simply a way to solve a contract negotiation. He was clearly elite, so he wanted top $'s, but he was on your prospect list rotting away making no money, so willing to play for cheap for one season. Obviously a different scenario than a free agent.

Yes, we allow multi-year deals for overage Euro's >25. There are pros and cons to both both rules (1 year only v multi-year) and in this case, best to follow the NHL which is what we typically do.

There must have been a misunderstanding. I was referencing the NHL not the HFNHL when I said I don't recall (too lazy to see if I can disprove myself) overage europeans signing more than one year deals since the new CBA.

 

[chump06]

Yutaka Fukufuji was not qualified and should be UFA.

Thanks

 

[Canuck09]

III. Restricted Free Agents :

OFFER -- COMPENSATION
• Up to $994,000 - No compensation
• $994,000 to $1,506,000 million - One 3rd round draft pick
• $1,506,000 to $3,013,000 million - One second round pick
• $3,013,000 to $4,520,000 million - One 1st and one 3rd round pick
• $4,520,000 to $6,026,000 million - One 1st, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• $6,026,000 to $7,533,000 million - Two 1sts, one 2nd and one 3rd round pick
• Over $7.533.000 million - Four 1st round picks

I just noticed this now, but the different brackets for this overlap. I submitted an offer sheet at the top end of a bracket and noted what compensation I thought would apply but perhaps it's off by $1.

If someone was to offer $6,026,000, as an example, would it be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for compensation or two 1sts, 2nd and a 3rd?

 

[Ohio Jones]

I just noticed this now, but the different brackets for this overlap. I submitted an offer sheet at the top end of a bracket and noted what compensation I thought would apply but perhaps it's off by $1.

If someone was to offer $6,026,000, as an example, would it be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for compensation or two 1sts, 2nd and a 3rd?

The next bracket should start with $1. So a contract worth $1,506,001 would net a second-round pick, while a contract of $1,506,000 would net a third-round pick.

In your example, the offer would net 1 1st, 1 2nd and 1 3rd.

 

[SensGod]

Dallas offers sent...oh...and I just realized that Thibault is under contract for one more year. He's not eligible for UFA. http://www.hfnhl.com/2009/HFNHLPlayerVitals.html#Stars

 

[Ohio Jones]

Dallas offers sent...oh...and I just realized that Thibault is under contract for one more year. He's not eligible for UFA. http://www.hfnhl.com/2009/HFNHLPlayerVitals.html#Stars

Darn! No doubt a number of teams' goaltending plans are now out the window!

 

[SensGod]

Darn! No doubt a number of teams' goaltending plans are now out the window!

I can imagine... It's not too often that a guy like Thibaut sort of comes available

 

[Dryden]

Does it even matter since Thibault never even played in the NHL last year?