Prospect Info: #19 OA - C/W Evgeny Svechnikov, QMJHL

[Tasteslikekevinbacon]

He won't get claimed

I’m not as convinced this time. He very well may, Better players may have, but he has also now shown that he can play consistently in this leagues and that may be worth the gamble for cap starved teams looking for depth.

 

[Gniwder]

He won't get claimed

So much commotion for a player that can't even fetch a 7th rounder in a trade.

 

[Ezekial]

I’m not as convinced this time. He very well may, Better players may have, but he has also now shown that he can play consistently in this leagues and that may be worth the gamble for cap starved teams looking for depth.

The dude has 9 shots in 10 games and scored on 3 of them. He's not some offensive juggernaut and he's looks lost in his own end a lot. I like that he's been given more of an opportunity but he hasn't been nearly as good as 5 points in 10 games would indicate. Svech is a benefactor of Blashill hate imo.
Rasmussen actually looks like he's making strides to me, I can't say the same about Svech.

 

[Gniwder]

The dude has 9 shots in 10 games and scored on 3 of them. He's not some offensive juggernaut and he's looks lost in his own end a lot. I like that he's been given more of an opportunity but he hasn't been nearly as good as 5 points in 10 games would indicate. Svech is a benefactor of Blashill hate imo.
Rasmussen actually looks like he's making strides to me, I can't say the same about Svech.

I think the other factor is that he seems to coast a lot. Combined with his slow skating, it just doesn't look good from above. That kind of stuff really shows up from Stevie's vantage point. He needs to keep his feet moving at all times to compensate for his lack of speed, otherwise he's got no place in the league. My personal opinion is that Stevie hates him more than Blash does.


Side note: Sometimes it's fun to watch games from the cheap seats. I remember Hull skating around in circles without the puck almost endlessly, Nylander skating in circles with the puck, and Helm standing out based purely on speed. It's funny when a player stands out even when you can't see their jersey number.

 

[PettersonHughes]

I think the other factor is that he seems to coast a lot. Combined with his slow skating, it just doesn't look good from above. That kind of stuff really shows up from Stevie's vantage point. He needs to keep his feet moving at all times to compensate for his lack of speed, otherwise he's got no place in the league. My personal opinion is that Stevie hates him more than Blash does.

So he's lazy and (according to Ezekial) lacking in his own end? What I find strange is that it looks like he's playing on the 3rd line. Does he have bottom-6 ability (grit, two-way play) or is it boom or bust as a top-6?

 

[Gniwder]

So he's lazy and (according to Ezekial) lacking in his own end? What I find strange is that it looks like he's playing on the 3rd line. Does he have bottom-6 ability (grit, two-way play) or is it boom or bust as a top-6?

I'm not sure I'd call it lazy, so much as he seems to lose steam after 12 steps. Not sure if it's the knee injury or stamina issue. He's not floating like Mantha does, he just can't seem to skate the full length of the ice at full speed.

I'm not sure where he'd fit and obviously the team has the same opinion. PP2 specialist doesn't guarantee a roster spot or otherwise Hirose and Cholo would be on the team.

From what I see he's a defensively better Vanek (old Red Wings version), but without the experience and track record of scoring. The Wings third line is really the 4th line anyways, just a hodge podge of players that don't belong on any other line. The 4th line gets way more ice time.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

The dude has 9 shots in 10 games and scored on 3 of them. He's not some offensive juggernaut and he's looks lost in his own end a lot. I like that he's been given more of an opportunity but he hasn't been nearly as good as 5 points in 10 games would indicate. Svech is a benefactor of Blashill hate imo.
Rasmussen actually looks like he's making strides to me, I can't say the same about Svech.

He is still easily one of our 12 best forwards. Bad decision, like we have seen for most of this season in my opinion.

 

[MBH]

I knew Svech's days were numbered here last year when he led the team in scoring in the pre-season... looked good in a callup, but Blash benched him anyway.
Blash is f***ing over another one.
He's f***ing buffoon.
I'm not some Stecher slappy, but he's clearly better than Merril and Djoos and Dekeyser. It's not even arguable, in my eyes.
But Stecher sits for some reason.

Svech's production has been fine. (2nd best Goals/60, 3rd best points/60).
His CF has been OK, considering this team. It's not a joke's like Zadina's or Rasmussen's, anyway.

His GF% isn't good, but it's far from the bottom.
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But, let's get more Sam Gagner.
Let's build for the future with Bobby Ryan and Sam Gagner.

 

[Ezekial]

So he's lazy and (according to Ezekial) lacking in his own end? What I find strange is that it looks like he's playing on the 3rd line. Does he have bottom-6 ability (grit, two-way play) or is it boom or bust as a top-6?

I wouldn't call him a lazy player I just don't think processes that side of the ice very well. He's more than willing to go to the corners and forecheck I just don't think he has that next gear to be a true puck hound.

 

[Ezekial]

He is still easily one of our 12 best forwards. Bad decision, like we have seen for most of this season in my opinion.

I definitely don't think he should be the odd man out, I just don't think he'll be claimed.

 

[Gniwder]

He is still easily one of our 12 best forwards. Bad decision, like we have seen for most of this season in my opinion.

I knew Svech's days were numbered here last year when he led the team in scoring in the pre-season... looked good in a callup, but Blash benched him anyway.
Blash is f***ing over another one.
He's f***ing buffoon.
I'm not some Stecher slappy, but he's clearly better than Merril and Djoos and Dekeyser. It's not even arguable, in my eyes.
But Stecher sits for some reason.

Svech's production has been fine. (2nd best Goals/60, 3rd best points/60).
His CF has been OK, considering this team. It's not a joke's like Zadina's or Rasmussen's, anyway.

His GF% isn't good, but it's far from the bottom.
'
But, let's get more Sam Gagner.
Let's build for the future with Bobby Ryan and Sam Gagner.

I think it's Stevie's decision, and NONE of these players will have any impact on the long term trajectory of this team other than Ryan possibly getting us a draft pick.

I agree that Stecher looks way better than Djoos. I'd even go so far as saying Cholo looked better. Keep in mind Stecher played last night and Djoos got benched, so you really can't complain about that today.

I'm gonna repeat myself.... so much commotion for a player that can't even fetch a 2026 7th.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Kind of hope he gets claimed for his sake. He’s an NHL player at this point, maybe not a very good one, but an NHL player nonetheless. And like it or not, 3-4 years in the league, even at a million or so a year, can set up a financially literate person for life.

While I’ve never gotten the sense that Braindead Blashill was a malicious or egomaniacal coach like Babcock, there is a very real argument to make that he has done Svech a huge disservice and is in danger of costing Svech several million dollars.

 

[Scottgaf1]

You will get to see soon if league GMs agree with you.

We will see if Ryan or Gagner fetch Detroit any value back. We already know Svech got the team nothing and was a first round pick.

I knew Svech's days were numbered here last year when he led the team in scoring in the pre-season... looked good in a callup, but Blash benched him anyway.
Blash is f***ing over another one.
He's f***ing buffoon.
I'm not some Stecher slappy, but he's clearly better than Merril and Djoos and Dekeyser. It's not even arguable, in my eyes.
But Stecher sits for some reason.

Svech's production has been fine. (2nd best Goals/60, 3rd best points/60).
His CF has been OK, considering this team. It's not a joke's like Zadina's or Rasmussen's, anyway.

His GF% isn't good, but it's far from the bottom.
'
But, let's get more Sam Gagner.
Let's build for the future with Bobby Ryan and Sam Gagner.

 

[Winger98]

I definitely don't think he should be the odd man out, I just don't think he'll be claimed.

If I'm Carolina, and I can make it work without hurting the team, I consider claiming him just to make his brother happy and maybe make it easier to re-sign him.

 

[Henkka]

Carolina could claim him and put him to sit on taxi squad.

If that's best for the brothers, that other will play and other will sit, so be it.

 

[Gniwder]

If I'm Carolina, and I can make it work without hurting the team, I consider claiming him just to make his brother happy and maybe make it easier to re-sign him.

They have salary cap and roster space:
Carolina Hurricanes - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

If they truly wanted to do that, it would make sense for them to trade for Svech AFTER he clears waivers, then it would only cost them $70k instead of $874k per season. I don't think there's any precedence for a signing or trade like that.

 

[TheOtherOne]

I for one am glad we have so many superstar wingers on our roster that we just can't manage to find a spot for a talented young 1st rounder.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

If you're Carolina you should avoid this. He isn't a player you can protect long-term and you could damage your relationship with your superstar when you waive him, don't sign him or trade him. While everyone talks about brothers the Sedin's experience is rare, I wouldn't do this if I was them.

It would be cool if he landed somewhere to get a chance though. Rooting for him.

 

[ShelbyZ]

Carolina could claim him and put him to sit on taxi squad.

In order for that to happen, the Canes would have to put him right back on waivers and hope he clears, which would give the Wings a chance to claim him back. And if no one else puts in a claim the 2nd time (other than Detroit), the Wings could send him right to the Taxi Squad or GR.

If the Canes want him for their TS, they'd be better off waiting for him to clear and then offering Yzerman a couple 12 packs of Cheerwine.

 

[Ezekial]

If I'm Carolina, and I can make it work without hurting the team, I consider claiming him just to make his brother happy and maybe make it easier to re-sign him.

I, personally, don't think Carolina needs to do anything to make Andrei happy specifically. That's not to say they shouldn't accommodate him and treat him like the star player he is, I just don't think he's unhappy in Carolina to a point where management will claim Geno solely to have his brother in the locker room.
Andrei will sign his RFA deal this offseason, is he more likely to sign long term because they claim Geno? What if they claim him and decide not to qualify him at the end of the year and he goes elsewhere, does that help with the Andrei situation? If they truly believe he helps their team and are willing to extend him beyond this season due to his play and not the play of his brother more power to them. The only way I see it working out is Geno excelling in Carolina and deserving to be extended, otherwise, just claiming the brother doesn't push the needle.

 

[Hen Kolland]

So I think this probably has to do with Bobby Ryan and Sam Gagner probably getting close to returning. You bring Bobby back in and sit down Nielsen obviously, and when Gagner comes back, you can make an argument that Svech deserves to stay, but someone is going to come out. If Svechnikov has to be the odd man out that allows Smith to stick around and add something the team doesn’t have in spades, I think that’s fine. Smith tilts the ice, never shorts you on effort without being a complete loss of competency elsewhere.

I am happy that Svechnikov has gotten some chance to play, but he’s just an incomplete player that doesn’t play at a high enough pace to play off our better players, adds little to the team in the NZ and DZ, and isn’t dynamic enough to create for himself. I will always be a fan of the person, but as a hockey player, I don’t see how his NHL career lasts much more than another year or two as a 12th option on a bottom tier team.

 

[Gniwder]

I wouldn't call him a lazy player I just don't think processes that side of the ice very well. He's more than willing to go to the corners and forecheck I just don't think he has that next gear to be a true puck hound.

I thought of something funny....

The best way to describe his skating is that he looks like he smokes 2 packs of Marlboro Reds a day. Too bad for Svech it's not 1970:

Derek Sanderson Didn't Always Smoke and Pray at the Same Time

 

[TCNorthstars]

I for one am glad we have so many superstar wingers on our roster that we just can't manage to find a spot for a talented young 1st rounder.

Well, he is a first rounder!

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

I see people badmouthing ma boy and that will just not be tolerated

 

[14ari13]

It is so strange to read posts here.
1st we will see if he gets claimed
2nd this is Yzerman's decision, not Blashill's
3rd how many of you have followed and analysed his game?

I have said I will follow the players and here is what he did in his last but one game.
He throws a wild pass to dekeyser forcing Dekeyser to leave his position going deep. Then with Dekeyser deep in Florida's zone Hronek is the lone defender back, but that should be fine as they are 2 players vs our 4. Guess what, they score. Who was the closest player? Svechnikov. He did not cover that guy. But we have to forgive him as it is his learning curve. So what does he do next? He gets angry he slashes a guy twice and then follows with cross checking and gets 2 min.
This is what I remember. I am not sure if this was from the last 2 or 1 game.

Any of you noticing anything positive or negative about his play lately?