14-15 HFBoards Yahoo Fantasy Premier Keeper League Part VII

[Brain Sergeant]

They don't change by league, so I expect it assumes standard Yahoo league settings.

O-Rank is online rank, its how people online are using them.

 

[BrockH]

O-Rank is online rank, its how people online are using them.

I wasn't talking about O-Rank. I was talking about Total Rank (I should have said "Actual Rank", but I was just thinking Total as opposed to Average).

 

[BrockH]

Here's the information parred down to what I'm focused on:

Name | GP | Actual Rank | Average Rank Palat |41GP|67|97
Lucic |43GP|71|175
Schenn |44GP|127|188

It makes no sense...Lucic is 4 behidn Palat in Actual Rank, based on their total stats, but he's 78 spots behind Palat in average rank, based on per game stats. They've played basically the same number of games...the gap between their actual ranks and their average ranks should be about the same.

 

[Tiranis]

Here's the information parred down to what I'm focused on:

Name | GP | Actual Rank | Average Rank Palat |41GP|67|97
Lucic |43GP|71|175
Schenn |44GP|127|188

It makes no sense...Lucic is 4 behidn Palat in Actual Rank, based on their total stats, but he's 78 spots behind Palat in average rank, based on per game stats. They've played basically the same number of games...the gap between their actual ranks and their average ranks should be about the same.

I believe this is because PIMs really boost Lucic's value in overall stats (top 10) but in average stats there are quite a number of players who have high average PIMs due to only playing a few games putting him much further back.

In fact, that's the case for all stats to an extent and results in average rank being all but useless. Andrew Agozzino is 62nd in it.

(The reason it affects Lucic and PIMs so much is because getting one 5 or 10 minute penalty can carry you for 5+ games. The top penalty earners — other than Downie — still only have under 2 PIM per game. To do the same in any other category, you would need to have 5 goals in one game or 20+ shots.)

 

[BrockH]

I believe this is because PIMs really boost Lucic's value in overall stats (top 10) but in average stats there are quite a number of players who have high average PIMs due to only playing a few games putting him much further back.

In fact, that's the case for all stats to an extent and results in average rank being all but useless. Andrew Agozzino is 62nd in it.

I think you might be onto something on the PIMs thing, but I'm not really sure about it. If it applied to all stats equally, then you should see the same drop-off on Palat as you do on Lucic. So it'd have to be something unique to PIMs.

I suppose if you look at stat categories individually as percentile rankings, Palat and Lucic probably hold their position in most categories (since the guys playing 5 games generally score at a lower rate). The exception would be PIMs, where the guys playign 5 games often have a higher rate than the guys playing 40 games. So you'd see a larger drop-off in PIMs than any other category, which might hit Lucic harder? It seems like a reach, but I can't think of any other plausible explanation.

 

[arsmaster*]

I've never looked at average stats ever, I do most of my analysis when looking at who's not over their previous 14 or 30 games.

I'm not sure what you'd ever get looking at the averages.

 

[ArtursSilovsShirt]

Quick look at my keepers as we approach the all-star break

C - Tyler Johnson
C - Logan Couture
D - Duncan Keith
D - Aaron Ekblad (rook)
G - Kari Lehtonen
G - Jimmy Howard

Those are the locks as of now, 5 keepers and 1 rookie. Foligno and Okposo look to be the favourite for the last two keeper spots and it'll be tough deciding between Reinhart, Nelson and Pastrnak for my 2nd rookie spot.

Will likely be trying to deal a couple of high profile rookies in the summer for picks, or a keeper upgrade!

 

[BrockH]

I've never looked at average stats ever, I do most of my analysis when looking at who's not over their previous 14 or 30 games.

I'm not sure what you'd ever get looking at the averages.

I use average stats all the time. Probably more often than anything else, especially early in the season (when some players having more games than others is a significant factor).

 

[Brain Sergeant]

I am open to dealing the following players.

Krjci
Nyquist
Wisniewski
Franson
Brodie
Callahan
Bozak
ROR
Lindholm
Toffoli
Pearson
Bernier
Kuemper

 

[BrockH]

Updated roto stats. Boom!

Team Name | Total | Skaters | Goalies | G | A | +/- | PIM | PPP | SOG | BLK | W | SV% | GAA BrockH | 93| 60| 33| 10| 10| 12| 9| 9| 9| 1| 9| 12| 12
Crystal Dragon | 85| 66.5| 18.5| 9| 8.5| 9| 10| 8| 10| 12| 8| 4.5| 6
ARSMASTER | 83| 60| 23| 12| 5| 11| 5| 7| 11| 9| 6| 8| 9
CCF23 | 81| 58| 23| 3| 11| 8| 12| 6| 7| 11| 5| 10| 8
Tiranis | 76.5| 71| 5.5| 11| 12| 7| 11| 10| 12| 8| 3.5| 1| 1
Rattleshirt | 70.5| 37| 33.5| 6.5| 4| 10| 2.5| 4| 4| 6| 11.5| 11| 11
ubiquitous | 62| 40.5| 21.5| 8| 7| 1| 2.5| 11| 6| 5| 11.5| 3| 7
Liquid Snake | 60| 40| 20| 2| 8.5| 4.5| 7| 12| 2| 4| 2| 8| 10
JannikAtTheDisco | 58| 39.5| 18.5| 6.5| 6| 3| 1| 5| 8| 10| 10| 4.5| 4
Dollar Balls Mahoney | 43.5| 28| 15.5| 4| 1| 2| 6| 3| 5| 7| 7| 6| 2.5
Deep44 | 39.5| 23| 16.5| 1| 3| 6| 8| 1| 1| 3| 3.5| 8| 5
Archangel 11 | 28| 22.5| 5.5| 5| 2| 4.5| 4| 2| 3| 2| 1| 2| 2.5

 

[Archangel]

Updated roto stats. Boom!

Team Name | Total | Skaters | Goalies | G | A | +/- | PIM | PPP | SOG | BLK | W | SV% | GAA BrockH | 93| 60| 33| 10| 10| 12| 9| 9| 9| 1| 9| 12| 12
Crystal Dragon | 85| 66.5| 18.5| 9| 8.5| 9| 10| 8| 10| 12| 8| 4.5| 6
ARSMASTER | 83| 60| 23| 12| 5| 11| 5| 7| 11| 9| 6| 8| 9
CCF23 | 81| 58| 23| 3| 11| 8| 12| 6| 7| 11| 5| 10| 8
Tiranis | 76.5| 71| 5.5| 11| 12| 7| 11| 10| 12| 8| 3.5| 1| 1
Rattleshirt | 70.5| 37| 33.5| 6.5| 4| 10| 2.5| 4| 4| 6| 11.5| 11| 11
ubiquitous | 62| 40.5| 21.5| 8| 7| 1| 2.5| 11| 6| 5| 11.5| 3| 7
Liquid Snake | 60| 40| 20| 2| 8.5| 4.5| 7| 12| 2| 4| 2| 8| 10
JannikAtTheDisco | 58| 39.5| 18.5| 6.5| 6| 3| 1| 5| 8| 10| 10| 4.5| 4
Dollar Balls Mahoney | 43.5| 28| 15.5| 4| 1| 2| 6| 3| 5| 7| 7| 6| 2.5
Deep44 | 39.5| 23| 16.5| 1| 3| 6| 8| 1| 1| 3| 3.5| 8| 5
Archangel 11 | 28| 22.5| 5.5| 5| 2| 4.5| 4| 2| 3| 2| 1| 2| 2.5

I inharited a bad team

Question--can I trade for draft high draft picks for next year or am I more or less stuck with my team? I read the no tanking rules--but my team sucks and there is only so much life on the waiver wire.

For example say if I moved Tarensenko, a 6th and 7th for a mid level player and 1st and a 2nd --would that be against the tanking rules? there is only so mcu tweeking I can do to the pile of crap I have

 

[CRDragon]

I inharited a bad team

Question--can I trade for draft high draft picks for next year or am I more or less stuck with my team? I read the no tanking rules--but my team sucks and there is only so much life on the waiver wire.

For example say if I moved Tarensenko, a 6th and 7th for a mid level player and 1st and a 2nd --would that be against the tanking rules? there is only so mcu tweeking I can do to the pile of crap I have

Tanking rule applies when you are inactive or purposely not setting your lineups, in order to lose all matchups so you'll have the best chance to win the lottery.

 

[Archangel]

Tanking rule applies when you are inactive or purposely not setting your lineups, in order to lose all matchups so you'll have the best chance to win the lottery.

just needed a clerification because leading out of the all star break I am going to do my best to scrap out of the basement--however--at the deadline (BTW--when is our trade deadline) I may start building for next year)--either the guy who drafted this team had no idea or he just drafted very badly

 

[CRDragon]

just needed a clerification because leading out of the all star break I am going to do my best to scrap out of the basement--however--at the deadline (BTW--when is our trade deadline) I may start building for next year)--either the guy who drafted this team had no idea or he just drafted very badly

Our trade deadline is March 5th, 2015.

 

[Eddie Vedder]

Hows my team doing?

 

[arsmaster*]

Hows my team doing?

4th place. Got rid of yakupov too.

 

[Eddie Vedder]

4th place. Got rid of yakupov too.

Yeah I ditched him in my other pool as well. Good call.

The bright lights of YakCity fail to shine.

 

[ArtursSilovsShirt]

**** sorry guys I could have sworn my lineup was set for today....Managed to get Hudler in but was a minute too late for Faulk It's been a hectic V-Day, should have checked earlier!

 

[CRDragon]

General Manager Replacement

Due to long periods of inactivity, Deep44 has been replaced with sal00.

 

[CRDragon]

Too bad this league has gotten quite stale for some of you.

Rattleshirt and ubiquitous both have not set their lineups this week....even after exchanging PMs in terms of trade proposals, I'm suprised to see Rattleshirt's lineups not set at all. Can that be viewed as tanking?

Any ideas for spicing things up again?

 

[sal00]

Thanks for the invite! Looking forward to some intense but friendly competition.

 

[ArtursSilovsShirt]

Am I the only one with a pretty ****** team that's still trying to make the playoffs? Tanking is for losers.

 

[BrockH]

Too bad this league has gotten quite stale for some of you.

Rattleshirt and ubiquitous both have not set their lineups this week....even after exchanging PMs in terms of trade proposals, I'm suprised to see Rattleshirt's lineups not set at all. Can that be viewed as tanking?

Any ideas for spicing things up again?

lol...and yet Rattle still did better than me this week.

 

[Brain Sergeant]

Too bad this league has gotten quite stale for some of you.

Rattleshirt and ubiquitous both have not set their lineups this week....even after exchanging PMs in terms of trade proposals, I'm suprised to see Rattleshirt's lineups not set at all. Can that be viewed as tanking?

Any ideas for spicing things up again?

Nah, I was just super busy this week. I am clearly not willing to sell the farm as evidenced by our trade discussions.

The reality is 4 PM is just a bad time for me at work, my whole day leads to 4 PM before I even have a chance to breathe sometimes, and by that point I remember and its too late unless there is some late games.

 

[Brain Sergeant]

With all the new people we should re-draft I think.

Also we should add a rule that you can only keep a player for 2 or 3 seasons.

That would make things interesting.