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Ah, so I see. My mistake.it gives him a 72% chance. he's in the 100th percentile (rounded up you can't be in the 100th percentile)
Ah, so I see. My mistake.it gives him a 72% chance. he's in the 100th percentile (rounded up you can't be in the 100th percentile)
it gives him a 72% chance. he's in the 100th percentile (rounded up you can't be in the 100th percentile)
https://www.nhl.com/flyers/news/fly...mer-showcase--philadelphia-flyers/c-290528098
Sounds like he's not out of the woods yet with his latest surgery. He might be fine, like you say, but I don't think it's unfair to bring it up as a concern. It's not a risk we could afford to take.
Im sure a lot of fans we're in the same boat as you. Initially I had zero problem if we went with him, but the more I read up on his injury history, it scared me away.
Philly fans are already going a little nuts about it and I even read an article from one Philly paper the other day about how one of his recent injuries could've been career ending.
Never something you want to see about an 18 year old, especially if he was wearing a Devils uni.
Mr. Fantasy Football, Trevor Eliott*“Hischier is a decent player, but I think he’s going to disappoint. Especially in the Devils’ slow style game, he’ll be lucky to score 15 [goals] with a 40 point total. He’s the NHL’s next Yakupov.â€
That guy should stick to fantasy football.
Also, I wouldn't call Zajac a "strong offensive player".
The Devils have an excellent forward core if you look at guys 26 and under. Hall, Henrique, Palmieri, Johansson, Hischier, Zacha. Assuming both Hischier and Zacha come close to hitting their ceilings, that's an incredibly talented, smart and fast top 6. It's also a way above average two-way group who will support their D.
Behind those guys we have a huge group of solid prospects to challenge that group, provide depth and maybe facilitate future trades. McLeod, Anderson, Boqvist, Bastian, Zetterlund, Popugayev, Gignac, Speers, Blandisi, Bratt, etc... That's enough solid prospects that we're all but guaranteed a couple will work out. Not sure why anyone would choose to focus on Stafford and Lovejoy instead.
And the comparison of Hischier to Yakupov is laughable. I assume he cherry-picked that simply because Yakupov is the ONLY significant 1st overall bust in the last 17 years? Before the draft I actually went and compared Yakupov's pre-draft write-ups to Hischier's. Yak was widely praised for his work ethic and skills, but that was it. Hischier got most of the same kind of accolades, but was also always very highly praised for an amazing hockey IQ. All his coaches (including Marc Crawford - a multiple Cup winner) went out of their way to say how smart a player his was. Players with sky-high hockey IQ simply aren't high bust risks. In the modern NHL a player with excellent IQ and above-average mobility is virtually bust-proof. I highly doubt Hischier will ever be on the level of Matthews or McDavid, but Yakupov? Laughable.
I agree that he will not reach McDavid levels, but what about a Tavares-like career. Is that too outlandish?
I agree that he will not reach McDavid levels, but what about a Tavares-like career. Is that too outlandish?
I don't think that's outlandish. I personally think Nico will put up consistent 70-80 pts seasons in his prime, which is just a little shy of Tavares' level. The big difference is that Nico will likely get consistent Selke consideration throughout his prime.
I'd sign up for 15 goals and 40 points right now!
Seriously, same here.
I'll be happy if he breaks 35 points this year. That's not a knock on him, we're just not a very good team.
That's absolutely a knock, if that's what you expect. The last 1st overall forward to score at a 35 point pace or lower in his rookie season was Patrik Stefan. The last 1st overall to score at a lower than 45 point pace was Rick Nash.
Now, obviously Joe Thornton only had 7 points his first year, so it's not the end of the world if Nico has a disastrous first season, but it is historically very unlikely that will happen.
Seems like we've been conditioned to expect the worst of our young players.
Hischier's junior numbers are worse than most 1st overall picks and so I feel like anyone who's expecting him to jump in and be a definite 1st line/2nd line player right away in Year 1 will end up disappointed. Comparing him to forwards who had his junior numbers is a much more sensible thing than comparing him to 1st overall picks.
This presumes pure math expresses where a player can or should be taken in the draft. Jonathan Drouin (2.14) had a significantly higher points per game than Nathan Mackinnon (1.70), yet Mackinnon went first. And Duchene, who is better than both of them, only put up 1.37 in his draft year. In 2011, Gabriel Landeskog (1.24) went ahead of Jonathan Huberdeau (1.56). Both of them went ahead of Sean Couturier (1.65).
We can put together a range of outcomes using PPG, but I don't think a .2 or .3 difference in draft years between prospects can adequately predict a particular player's trajectory. That's why we have scouting teams.
What we can tell for certain is where Hischier went in the draft, and how that position relates to history. Only one forward chosen first overall in the last 18 years produced lower than .5 in his first NHL season.