I love playing with numbers too, but comparing different ages of hockey is not really fair to Nico.If breaks into the top 5 in points I would be pleasantly surprised.
- Scott Gomez, 70 points, 1999-00
- Kevin Todd, 63 points, 1991-92
- Kirk Muller, 54 points, 1984-85
- Adam Henrique, 51 points, 2011-12
- Pat Verbeek, 47 points, 1983-84
Yea with scoring in the NHL today, if he cracks 40 points he had a great year for a rookie.I love playing with numbers too, but comparing different ages of hockey is not really fair to Nico.
I mean matching Verbeek's numbers would be a much bigger achievement now than it was back then.
There were 23 players scoring 90+ points in 83/84 while we had only 1 last year.
I totally believe he can score 50, but I would already be happy with about 35-40 points and a solid defensive play.
Not that it's been a big detriment or anything, but the one thing Hischier really does need is to put on some muscle and get stronger. Since the Caps were dressing almost a full lineup last night and they have a pretty big team, you could see Hischier getting worked in the corners and along the boards a few times. His speed, stickhandling, and shiftiness makes up for that right now, but when he bulks up and can fight off more checks he's really going to be able to explode off of those half boards.
For sure, he has some many abilities that look like that will make him a very good NHLer for us for a long time. You can see the difference along the boards between Nico and Bratt, who is a year older, where Bratt has been able to shield the puck with his body and shake off checks, and Nico has been shoved over on a number of occasions. Another year and some more muscle in the offseason should help with that a lot.Yeah, I would like to see Nico add some more muscle at some point, since him lacking that strength will at times make him vulnerable in the NHL. I think Nico was doing a lot of training this off-season to try to add muscle, so I imagine he'll keep that up this upcoming off-season. I think it is difficult to add muscle during a hockey season (even maintaining it can be a challenge, if I recall correctly) but that is one area where he can grow in the off-seasons. Everything else about him--skill, smarts, shiftiness, stickhandling--looks superb, though.
I' d like him to do whatever Zacha did this off season. Our #1 and #1A centers for the next decade god willing.Yeah, I would like to see Nico add some more muscle at some point, since him lacking that strength will at times make him vulnerable in the NHL. I think Nico was doing a lot of training this off-season to try to add muscle, so I imagine he'll keep that up this upcoming off-season. I think it is difficult to add muscle during a hockey season (even maintaining it can be a challenge, if I recall correctly) but that is one area where he can grow in the off-seasons. Everything else about him--skill, smarts, shiftiness, stickhandling--looks superb, though.
Yea Zacha can show him how to bulk up. Zacha is just running over guys this preseason, even veteran NHLers.I' d like him to do whatever Zacha did this off season. Our #1 and #1A centers for the next decade god willing.
I'd say a much bigger factor is situations more than era. You look at those seasons and just about everyone one of those guys got thrusted into top line situations with good players very early...Gomez had Mogilny, Henrique had Parise and Kovalchuk...the era certainly wasn't high scoring for Gomez. Brendan Morrison was another that found himself in a very good position in the top 6.I love playing with numbers too, but comparing different ages of hockey is not really fair to Nico.
I mean matching Verbeek's numbers would be a much bigger achievement now than it was back then.
There were 23 players scoring 90+ points in 83/84 while we had only 1 last year.
I totally believe he can score 50, but I would already be happy with about 35-40 points and a solid defensive play.
For sure, he has some many abilities that look like that will make him a very good NHLer for us for a long time. You can see the difference along the boards between Nico and Bratt, who is a year older, where Bratt has been able to shield the puck with his body and shake off checks, and Nico has been shoved over on a number of occasions. Another year and some more muscle in the offseason should help with that a lot.
I' d like him to do whatever Zacha did this off season. Our #1 and #1A centers for the next decade god willing.
Especially when you're the teacher...stop it, I'm in class and it's rude to be this erect
I'd say a much bigger factor is situations more than era. You look at those seasons and just about everyone one of those guys got thrusted into top line situations with good players very early...Gomez had Mogilny, Henrique had Parise and Kovalchuk...the era certainly wasn't high scoring for Gomez. Brendan Morrison was another that found himself in a very good position in the top 6.
Pat Verbeek though, really had no one. He was the 3rd leading scorer on his team as a rookie. Era's aside that was a solid rookie performances without a lot of help. Verbeek was on a team where 61 points led the the team. Brendan Morrison on the other hand, his 46 points were 6th on the team behind Sykora, Holik, Rolston Arnott and Elias It's too easy to say Verbeek played in a "High scoring era". His team wasn't a part of that high scoring era. In no way would I elevate Morrison's season over Verbeek even though one played in a high scoring era and one played in the dead puck era.
Then you look at someone like Patrick Elias, a far more talented player than any on the list at any period of time, who played largely in a bottom 6 role his rookie season. Therefore he's not on the list.
Situations are far more important.
stop it, I'm in class and it's rude to be this erect
Especially when you're the teacher...
Probably ending up in jail because the judge wouldn't understand your 15 site long explanation of why this 18yo Swiss boy has control over your body.
I was disappointed Bratt wasn't in the lineup yesterday.i still can't believe bratt was able to stand up checks as well as he did. i think there was a play behind schneider maybe? against either the caps or the rags? but someone went for a hit and either slipped, or bounced off, but a poster mentioned how bratt didn't budge.
i need to see that clip again
Especially when you're the teacher...
Probably ending up in jail because the judge wouldn't understand your 15 site long explanation of why this 18yo Swiss boy has control over your body.
I'm in for 50+ as well. Looks like he is going to play with Mojo, and Stafford has thus far proven capable of burying chances.I was hesitant to give gawdy point projections to Nico purely out of concern for the team around him. He can't get assists if the rest of the team isn't scoring, and he can't score if the rest of the team can't get him the puck.
But now I'm ready to get on the optimism train. Looking at our top-9 I can't see a situation where he isn't put with competent offensive players.
I think purely on skill alone he could have gotten 40 points....now I'm upping my expectation to 50 points. This is going to be a fun season.