GDT: 11/14/23 - 8:00PM EDT - Tampa Bay @ St. Louis

[UseYourHedman]

Gotcha. We need pre-cups hunger and a healthy Vasi

 

[Renopucker]

They carried the play in the second and then that 2nd goal was the kick (I knew it would be) in the balls. Then the 3rd goal in a matter of milliseconds. The sack hit froze 'em.

 

[DMB06]

How no trade assets and no cap space ?

It's all about getting Stammer to waive, pretty much everything hinges on that. If that's not something JBB is willing to consider then yeah we're pretty much screwed unless Vasy plays out of his mind.

I wonder what Serg would bring back in a trade.

 

[Felonious Python]

Next game against Chicago is ESPN+/Hulu exclusive.

I’d say we could afford to make some lineup changes. Just my thoughts. More of just benching though not necessarily trades.

Any trade like that would be about the mix in the room (which we know the least about).

 

[Powerplay17]

Question for the group...what's your line in the sand?

Missing the playoffs? Serious question.

What would make you go..."ok, time for a change" whether players or coaches?

Just curious. Trying to be calm about this. (I know...I know...)

It’s already passed. I’d burn this thing down to the studs. Aside from Vazy, anyone should be available at the deadline.

 

[T REX]

Gotcha. We need pre-cups hunger and a healthy Vasi

This is an interesting take.

Everyone got cups and everyone got paid.

What exactly is motivating them now?

 

[Sky04]

Paul is in over his head lately, maybe it's time to bump him down

 

[Ducati Boy]

Clearly, we failed to appreciate the magic that Conor Sheary was weaving.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

 

[Ducati Boy]

I honestly think we have too many stopgap players who we are 99% sure will never blossom into anyone special. I'd like to see that injection of hungry Syracuse players, not just the usual suspects.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

Welcome to 0.500 Town, boys! WOOOOOOOOO!

 

[ccman68]

hopefully this is the last game abb plays for us. he does have offensive skill to sometimes looks useful but 99% time he just looks like a kid out there lost and confused. just too small slow and weak

 

[LightningStrikes]

Both Stamkos and Paul were on the ice for all five GA, -5 each.

 

[Master P]

It’s already passed. I’d burn this thing down to the studs. Aside from Vazy, anyone should be available at the deadline.

lol
lmao even

 

[FinnLightning26]

Lol. We need our draft picks back.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

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Welcome to 0.500 Town, boys! WOOOOOOOOO!

You have 6 wins from 16 games.. welcome to under .400 hockey
6/16 wins = .375 hockey

 

[LightningStrikes]

You have 6 wins from 16 games.. welcome to under .400 hockey
6/16 wins = .375 hockey

6-6-4 is .50 P% though.

 

[These Are The Days]

I don't know about everyone, but clearly this team needs help on defense. Vasy, if he returns to form which isn't guaranteed, will help. But I still think we need an addition or two.

I disagree on Vasy. This is the most prolonged absence of his career and our one player whose compete level rivals Kucherov. He may have some terrible outings for about 2 weeks and he's going to go back to being the best goalie in the world because he has had his time to recover mentally and physically. He probably hasn't been this ready and excited to play hockey since he was a rookie.

 

[These Are The Days]

It's all about getting Stammer to waive, pretty much everything hinges on that. If that's not something JBB is willing to consider then yeah we're pretty much screwed unless Vasy plays out of his mind.

I wonder what Serg would bring back in a trade.

The Lightning couldn't move him for free if they wanted to. Almost no one has the cap space necessary to accommodate his contract

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

So who's going to create the "Tampa Bay Lightning are horror-bad" thread on the main boards

 

[FinnLightning26]

I think we need help from our favourite Leaf fan.

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

Could be worse I guess

Oh absolutely.

Expectations are high, which is expected, but that's not always been the case with the team.

Even ignoring years where losing was common, they've been to 4 Cups and won 2 over the past 8 years.

In that same exact time the Oilers, with their first round draft picks aplenty and Connor McDavid for each season, have won nothing. No Cup appearances. No Cup wins.

The Leafs have been out of the first round once with all their talent.

It doesn't make what's happening now less frustrating, because as I said the expectations are high for the team and in recent memory success is all the team knows. But putting it in perspective it could easily be much worse.

 

[Byrddog]

6-6-4 is .50 P% though.

That is the first sign of fan panic. Trying to feel good about loser points.

Another looking back on past years performance . This provides no comfort to fans paying the bills today. Winning the cup is hard being competitive and entertaining is alway a focus. Roster managment is essential With the cap leveling the field. Playing games with the cap and spending in expectation of a cap increase a dangerous path. The roster has to many high salaries it’s not even a question if the player is worthy. It’s not the case this is the only team in thiS trouble. The problem is GM’s cause the problem . They are not held accountable most times until it’s too late .

 

[Stammertime91]

Both Stamkos and Paul were on the ice for all five GA, -5 each.

That's my boy. Taking another discount for the team by killing his own stats. He's the best.

 

[LightningStrikes]

That is the first sign of fan panic. Trying to feel good about loser points.

I’m not trying anything nor panicking, it’s the definition of P%.