Value of: 1 of these Blue Jackets to Toronto
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LazyCircuits
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There are slight complications here. Jenner has term and is an important role player so Columbus won’t deal him barring silly overpayment. Foligno is the captain and I feel that Columbus would probably listen to him if he requested not to be traded (rightly or wrongly). Kukan would have a fairly modest price tag but Columbus probably wouldn’t move him if they do trade Savard (which they ought to).
Agree with all of this. And I would add that CBJ doesn't feel like "true" sellers (yet?), so as of now they'll only move core players if the price is worth it. This isn't a "we'll take the best offer" situation, it has to be a good offer or Jarmo will just keep them.
ottomaddox
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I agree. In about a week they will determine if they are buyers or sellers at the deadline. They have to contend with Chicago and Nashville to get into the post season.
If they get in will they do damage in the playoffs? Is Columbus just always working status quo as being a 'medium team' (pretty good but never great)?
If they get in will they do damage in the playoffs? Is Columbus just always working status quo as being a 'medium team' (pretty good but never great)?
I think there were a couple seasons there where they had a real shot at a cup run, but ran into the eventual cup-winners in the first/second rounds and didn't make it happen.
But if you just look at success in the playoffs as the barometer for good/great... then yep.
Xoggz22
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In order of value...
Kukan - won't garner much more than a later round pick. I like him and he can certainly fit on a bottom pair but he's not "unique" to a point of a bidding war. CBJ has him signed for exposure in the expansion draft.
Foligno - expiring contract but can play anywhere in the lineup and any role. As CBJ captain, I think they'll give pause in moving him but if they do I would expect others will be interested and could garner a pick and a prospect (not both high value but I could see 1st and B prospect or 2nd and B+ prospect). I dont' think he'll be cheap even on expiring deal.
Jenner - still has one year remaining on deal ($3.75MM AAV) and is strong on the forecheck, can play W or C (good in faceoff circle) and has some skill. A winner and player you win with. I don't think he gets moved at the deadline unless it's a silly offer (1st and a very good prospect).
Savard - wasn't on list but certainly a player I think the Leafs would have interest in, as well as several other teams. As a top 4 RHD that eats minutes and plays the PK he'll get a very good return. Expiring contract but his playoff performance, demeanor and skill set are things Cup contenders want in the lineup. I think he will get a 1st and prospect - similar to Boone but for different reasons.
Keep in mind, the 1st round picks I am guessing at would likely be very late 1sts so it's not a lottery pick. Also a lot of questions surrounding the 2021 draft so may not be valued in the same manner. Just guesses on my part for perceived value.
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ottomaddox
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I believe Toronto has all of their draft picks except for a 3rd and a 7th.
Do picks in round 1,2,4,5, and 6 interest CBJ?
I think Robertson and Amirov are their best forward prospects.
Liljegren and Sandin are their best D prospects.
Goaltending is not there in terms of value or depth. I doubt CBJ would even glance at Holl or Scott.
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Viqsi
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It's possible. Depends on how the deal is structured. We charge extra for retention and/or if we have to take salary back, so that might make trade proposals between our teams a little more "interesting".
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is Toronto willing to make Mikyev and/or Robertson (sp? on both..too lazy too look up) available in this deal?
Boondock
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I don't see the appeal for the Jackets. Lose the better player, retain on the better player for this season and next, take on a longer contract for the lesser player at a higher cap hit due to retention and exchange a solid, yet unspectacular bottom pairing dman for an AHL contract - all for a late 1st in a bad/weird draft. Why do the Jackets make this move?
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I would say no.
There are other options I rather reserve the big prospects for. I also think that Sandin and Robertson are integral parts to the future of our club and they would be off the table for any rental or players with only limited term.
Fro
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We stop reading at Kerfoot
Seems most people haven't actually watched Kerfoot play much....
Guys like Amirov won't be available for rentals, especially players that would be playing in the bottom 6 or bottom pairing
Guys like Amirov won't be available for rentals, especially players that would be playing in the bottom 6 or bottom pairing
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Boondock
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points aren't the only criteria for evaluating players. You also need to account for the team scoring - in 2 fewer games the Leafs have 24 more goals for - including assists this is approximately 72 additional points distributed through the Leafs line up. This will elevate the point totals for players like Kerfoot. Kerfoot is also signed for 2 more seasons so any team trading for Kerfoot would need to want that player and contract.
ottomaddox
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Good question. I never even considered Mikheyev as trade bait, but that is a possibility. If TOR gets someone defensive in return for Mikheyev, then why not?
Fro
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Kerfoot, Engravil, Amirov/Lilijgren, Hallander, 1st 2021, 4th 2021 and 2nd 2022
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Foligno 50% retained, Jenner 50% retained and Kukan
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