Management 0 Days since new Melnyk Incident

[branch]

And when Tkachuk doesn’t resign here, yeah I’m sure crap like this won’t be a factor in his departure. Melnyk is single handedly doing his utmost best to turn the franchise into a tired joke that gets less and less funny every time you hear it until it finally becomes inappropriate to mention in any setting.

Yep I’m sure Big Walt can’t wait until Brady is an RFA. Pierre is going to get rinsed again big time and we’ll be the ones suffering.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

There was that blogger that blogged about the gibbons article, got a letter from the Euge's big mean lawyer, and wrote an apology on his blog, don't recall which one it was though.

Not just a blogger ...Dean f***ing Blundell

 

[BankStreetParade]

To address your second point as both a former journalist and current journalism prof... the media industry's been bleeding for years, especially when it comes to the print side. When the industry began seeing fewer advertising revenue dollars, copy-editors and proof-readers were the first to go because there was no immediate dollar value that could be placed on the work they did. I find it hard to fault journalists who are being asked to do more work and more writing with less resources and less time in which to do them when there are simple typos or grammatical flubs. It speaks to a sloppiness that has been brought on entirely due to the 24-hour news cycle, the importance of being first over being right, and the lack of funding that has come from the industry not being able to properly sell to its consumers that news costs money to produce.

Now, off of my soapbox, I agree that lawsuits are needed when accusing journalists of incorrect information or defaming information. This is an example of putting your money where your mouth is, the likes of which anyone screaming "fake news" and "alternate facts" isn't following through on. There's no such thing as "fake news" — there's news and there's libel. I'm interested in this specific suit because it makes me wonder how much of the information can ACTUALLY be proven by the writer vs. how much of this is a vanity lawsuit designed to get in the news cycle again. The presence of a retraction in the Sun leads me to believe that Melnyk may actually be in the right here, and have a legitimate case.

But again, I ask — where's the benefit here? At best, Melnyk wins the case and is $500,000 richer. But the prevailing belief is still that Melnyk is a shitheel, just not in this particular instance. It only serves to remind people about the whole Sens Foundation debacle in the first place. And at its worst, there's concrete evidence of some of the claims being made — enough to plant a seed of doubt into Melnyk's case. So as best as I can see, this is weird not because Melnyk is using his legal options, but because I don't really see a "win" condition here.

He's probably going to use a win to frame himself as a victim of the media and the city being out to get him. That he's operating his organization as best as he can, including the charitable foundations, while being slagged with false accusations.

Note: I'm not saying this is what I believe about the situation, I'm just using his frame of mind to come up with a scenario where he thinks he ends up a "winner" at the end of this thing.

I already mentioned this earlier in the thread but people like Melnyk thrive off these scenarios where someone makes a mistake and they use the opportunity to portray themselves as the victim. We see it pretty much every day with Trump. Makes me wonder why organizations keep making these stupid mistakes and giving morons like Melnyk the ammo to continue these narratives.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He's probably going to use a win to frame himself as a victim of the media and the city being out to get him. That he's operating his organization as best as he can, including the charitable foundations, while being slagged with false accusations.

Note: I'm not saying this is what I believe about the situation, I'm just using his frame of mind to come up with a scenario where he thinks he ends up a "winner" at the end of this thing.

I already mentioned this earlier in the thread but people like Melnyk thrive off these scenarios where someone makes a mistake and they use the opportunity to portray themselves as the victim. We see it pretty much every day with Trump. Makes me wonder why organizations keep making these stupid mistakes and giving morons like Melnyk the ammo to continue these narratives.

Overview. Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Eugene following his orange mentor and bullying the little people into silence.

But most of us know better. Everyone knows what Eugene is, and this lawsuit isn't going to help his case in this town.

 

[RealSpartan]

Someone needs to start a go fund me for Gibbons. Imagine raising a ton and the story that goes with it. I can't think of a better eff you to his attacker. I'd donate in an instant.

 

[mianjo]

Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk has filed a $500,000 defamation lawsuit in Ontario Superior Court against Ottawa Sun columnist Rick Gibbons, per TSN’s Rick Westhead.
The lawsuit stems from articles written about Melnyk’s dealings with the Ottawa Senators Foundation prior to the foundation cutting ties with the team and rebranding as the Ottawa-Gatineau Youth Foundation.

Ottawa Senators owner Melnyk files $500,000 lawsuit against Ottawa Sun columnist - TSN.ca

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

Someone needs to start a go fund me for Gibbons. Imagine raising a ton and the story that goes with it. I can't think of a better eff you to his attacker. I'd donate in an instant.

Pretty shitty cause to donate to either way

 

[Rand0m]

To address your second point as both a former journalist and current journalism prof... the media industry's been bleeding for years, especially when it comes to the print side. When the industry began seeing fewer advertising revenue dollars, copy-editors and proof-readers were the first to go because there was no immediate dollar value that could be placed on the work they did. I find it hard to fault journalists who are being asked to do more work and more writing with less resources and less time in which to do them when there are simple typos or grammatical flubs. It speaks to a sloppiness that has been brought on entirely due to the 24-hour news cycle, the importance of being first over being right, and the lack of funding that has come from the industry not being able to properly sell to its consumers that news costs money to produce.

Now, off of my soapbox, I agree that lawsuits are needed when accusing journalists of incorrect information or defaming information. This is an example of putting your money where your mouth is, the likes of which anyone screaming "fake news" and "alternate facts" isn't following through on. There's no such thing as "fake news" — there's news and there's libel. I'm interested in this specific suit because it makes me wonder how much of the information can ACTUALLY be proven by the writer vs. how much of this is a vanity lawsuit designed to get in the news cycle again. The presence of a retraction in the Sun leads me to believe that Melnyk may actually be in the right here, and have a legitimate case.

But again, I ask — where's the benefit here? At best, Melnyk wins the case and is $500,000 richer. But the prevailing belief is still that Melnyk is a shitheel, just not in this particular instance. It only serves to remind people about the whole Sens Foundation debacle in the first place. And at its worst, there's concrete evidence of some of the claims being made — enough to plant a seed of doubt into Melnyk's case. So as best as I can see, this is weird not because Melnyk is using his legal options, but because I don't really see a "win" condition here.

Maybe if enough of these news organizations end up getting sued (sounds like the Sun isn't in this case though) they'll find it's worth investing in fact checkers and proof readers.

It's a tricky situation now, we're at the point where the good quality news (verified sources, substance, proof readers...) is all going behind a paywall while all the majority increasingly ONLY read the free stuff that lacks serious quality (eg: sensational junk, unverified/fake news, those empty articles overblowing outrage after a handful of social media users make certain comments about a situation...)

What's really unfortunate is how the few reputable high quality newspapers often get lumped up with the junk.

 

[DrunkUncleDenis]

Oh come on. He's just trying to be a dick now.

Ironically, I feel like the Foundation stuff had blown over. All this does is incite more hatred of him as people remember how the Foundation cut ties.

 

[Tuna99]

Losing money, losing games, losing fans, losing friends in the media, losing your charity, Losing players, losing at gambling, losing your jet, losing your liver, losing you tarp - At some point we just have to give him credit for being the biggest loser

 

[JD1]

To address your second point as both a former journalist and current journalism prof... the media industry's been bleeding for years, especially when it comes to the print side. When the industry began seeing fewer advertising revenue dollars, copy-editors and proof-readers were the first to go because there was no immediate dollar value that could be placed on the work they did. I find it hard to fault journalists who are being asked to do more work and more writing with less resources and less time in which to do them when there are simple typos or grammatical flubs. It speaks to a sloppiness that has been brought on entirely due to the 24-hour news cycle, the importance of being first over being right, and the lack of funding that has come from the industry not being able to properly sell to its consumers that news costs money to produce.

Now, off of my soapbox, I agree that lawsuits are needed when accusing journalists of incorrect information or defaming information. This is an example of putting your money where your mouth is, the likes of which anyone screaming "fake news" and "alternate facts" isn't following through on. There's no such thing as "fake news" — there's news and there's libel. I'm interested in this specific suit because it makes me wonder how much of the information can ACTUALLY be proven by the writer vs. how much of this is a vanity lawsuit designed to get in the news cycle again. The presence of a retraction in the Sun leads me to believe that Melnyk may actually be in the right here, and have a legitimate case.

But again, I ask — where's the benefit here? At best, Melnyk wins the case and is $500,000 richer. But the prevailing belief is still that Melnyk is a shitheel, just not in this particular instance. It only serves to remind people about the whole Sens Foundation debacle in the first place. And at its worst, there's concrete evidence of some of the claims being made — enough to plant a seed of doubt into Melnyk's case. So as best as I can see, this is weird not because Melnyk is using his legal options, but because I don't really see a "win" condition here.

If you're already a heel, how do you become unheeled? When the whole charity foundation thing happened there was a meltdown in here because public opinion in here on melnyk waa was decided eons ago. Then Gibbons articles re-upped the meltdown

Gibbons article wasn't a get there first news sensationalism piece. And yes the apology from Sun media would leave you with the impression that there was some concern there with the validity of some facts

I'm interested to see how this plays out simply to understand whether anything underhanded went on thru this affair

 

[Micklebot]

Pretty shitty cause to donate to either way

Can't disagree with that. What cause would my donation be supporting, Gibbons? Melnyk? Libel in general? Or is this an indirect donation to the Ottawa Senators now that i can't attend games in person?

 

[Tuna99]

A win - win for both sides would be if the Sun puts $500 000 towards resigning Anthony Duclair. Would be good for everyone.

But Melnyck might need this money to pay his casino debts.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

If you're already a heel, how do you become unheeled? When the whole charity foundation thing happened there was a meltdown in here because public opinion in here on melnyk waa was decided eons ago. Then Gibbons articles re-upped the meltdown

Gibbons article wasn't a get there first news sensationalism piece. And yes the apology from Sun media would leave you with the impression that there was some concern there with the validity of some facts

I'm interested to see how this plays out simply to understand whether anything underhanded went on thru this affair

If pro wrestling has taught me anything, the way to be unheeled is to hit an even bigger heel over the back of the head with a steel chair.

 

[RealSpartan]

Pretty shitty cause to donate to either way

Depends how you see it. I see it as a statement against bullying, greed, narcissism. A lesson in "forgive and forget". All among the best of causes in my book.

 

[GCK]

Depends how you see it. I see it as a statement against bullying, greed, narcissism. A lesson in "forgive and forget". All among the best of causes in my book.

If you have money to spare for something like that, there are a large number of people really struggling financially through the pandemic who rely on all sorts of charities. Any donation would really help. God Bless.

 

[bert]

This is already in the 0 days since Melnyk incident. May aswell move it over. While i dispise the man we dont need multiple threads talking about it as its a constant.

 

[RealSpartan]

Indeed. Which is why my charitable donations this year are higher than ever.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

If pro wrestling has taught me anything, the way to be unheeled is to hit an even bigger heel over the back of the head with a steel chair.

 

[Samboni]

Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk has filed a $500,000 defamation lawsuit in Ontario Superior Court against Ottawa Sun columnist Rick Gibbons, per TSN’s Rick Westhead.
The lawsuit stems from articles written about Melnyk’s dealings with the Ottawa Senators Foundation prior to the foundation cutting ties with the team and rebranding as the Ottawa-Gatineau Youth Foundation.

Ottawa Senators owner Melnyk files $500,000 lawsuit against Ottawa Sun columnist - TSN.ca

Eugene is looking for additional revenue to help run the team this season

 

[Billy Bridges]

I'm glad TSN refers to the Sun as a tabloid, and I don't think they are referring to the size of the paper.

 

[TkachukMyAho]

It was a very irresponsible piece of journalism. These people speak to the broad majority of people and should be held to a high standard. As much as I have an intense dislike for everything that Melnyk even looks at, he's not wrong here....

 

[TheDebater]

This is interesting:



Edit: just saw there is already a thread on this.

 

[BloodRedArmy]

And you thought we were done for the day!