Value of: Zuccarello to the Flames for ??

[Shootertooter]

There was some speculation that a last minute deadline deal of Zucc to Calgary fell through.

It looks like Calgary's D is pretty solid with 5 slots going to Hamilton, Hamonic, Brodie, Giordano and Stone. They seem to have a few decent prospects in the system as well but maybe nowhere to put them for a while.

Offers for Zuccarello?

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[Brock Radunske]

There was some speculation that a last minute deadline deal of Zucc to Calgary fell through.

It looks like Calgary's D is pretty solid with 5 slots going to Hamilton, Hamonic, Brodie, Giordano and Stone. They seem to have a few decent prospects in the system as well but maybe nowhere to put them for a while.

Offers for Zuccarello?

If previous threads are an indication, NYR fans are going to want a shocking overpayment.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

If previous threads are an indication, NYR fans are going to want a shocking overpayment.

Probably want something like Brodie and a first-round pick for him.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Probably want something like Brodie and a first-round pick for him.

Don't get me wrong, Zuccs is a fantastic player but I wouldn't even trade Brodie straight up for him.
He's a 60pt winger who is 30 years old and looking at a big payday next summer.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Don't get me wrong, Zuccs is a fantastic player but I wouldn't even trade Brodie straight up for him.
He's a 60pt winger who is 30 years old and looking at a big payday.

Oh, yes, Zucc has one more year left.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Oh, yes, Zucc has one more year left.

I tried to ninja-edit for clarity but you got there first

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I tried to ninja-edit for clarity but you got there first

I keep forgetting about his contract for some reason. At least, you were there to remind me.

 

[GAGLine]

Probably want something like Brodie and a first-round pick for him.

Why would we want Brodie? He's a good player, but he's 28 in June and has 2 years left on his contract. He isn't in the age group we would be targeting. Plus, he's left handed and we just loaded up on left handed D prospects.

The obvious implication in the OP is that one of your defensive prospects would be the target, most likely Fox, plus whatever to make the value even.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Why would we want Brodie? He's a good player, but he's 28 in June and has 2 years left on his contract. He isn't in the age group we would be targeting. Plus, he's left handed and we just loaded up on left handed D prospects.

The obvious implication in the OP is that one of your defensive prospects would be the target, most likely Fox, plus whatever to make the value even.

Fox+ is a fair basis to build on, IMO.

 

[Savant]

Fox+ is a fair basis to build on, IMO.

Yes.

The Rangers could probably get a 1st for Zuccarello at the deadline as a rental. The fact that Calgary doesn't have their 1st this year hurts them in such a negotiation, especially if they dont want to go back to back years without a first.

So yes Flames would need to start with Fox and go from there.

 

[tradenashnow]

Probably want something like Brodie and a first-round pick for him.

I'm pretty sure with all the defenseman prospects they traded for and all the picks they have, they little to no interest in Brodie.

 

[tradenashnow]

Don't get me wrong, Zuccs is a fantastic player but I wouldn't even trade Brodie straight up for him.
He's a 60pt winger who is 30 years old and looking at a big payday next summer.

Thus why you aren't a GM. Every other GM would be laughing at you.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Thus why you aren't a GM. Every other GM would be laughing at you.

I get that Rangers fans are insecure over the McD trade but you don't need to be salty just because I wouldn't trade a 27 year old #3 dman with 2 years left for a 30 year old winger with 1 year left (Not to mention, there are only 16 points between their career years...)

 

[bernmeister]

Yes.

The Rangers could probably get a 1st for Zuccarello at the deadline as a rental. The fact that Calgary doesn't have their 1st this year hurts them in such a negotiation, especially if they dont want to go back to back years without a first.

So yes Flames would need to start with Fox and go from there.

Calgary has 2 picks round 4 this year and next, few picks this year in deep draft.
Fox is his rights, unsigned and technically college UFA risk, but he is the target.

Zuc + Rangers 2 2nd round picks in 2018 [NYR + NJD]
for
rights to Fox
Calgary's 2 picks 4th round both 2018 + 2019
and some other very small +

 

[Beacon]

Zuccarello is a better player on a better contract and younger (more worthy of being re-signed) than Nash, who brought back #1, #7, a middle-6 forward and a B prospect.

Shattenkirk brought back #1, a conditional #2 and a prospect.

Zuccarello should bring back more. Plus, if a trade takes pace this summer, a team gets the regular season too, not just the playoffs.

Probably #1, #2 and a B+ prospect.

 

[Flamesfan62]

Thus why you aren't a GM. Every other GM would be laughing at you.

Nope. I think a lot of GM’s would agree with him.

 

[WhoTagz]

There was some speculation that a last minute deadline deal of Zucc to Calgary fell through.

It looks like Calgary's D is pretty solid with 5 slots going to Hamilton, Hamonic, Brodie, Giordano and Stone. They seem to have a few decent prospects in the system as well but maybe nowhere to put them for a while.

Offers for Zuccarello?

Package of picks would suit me..

 

[Shootertooter]

Calgary has 2 picks round 4 this year and next, few picks this year in deep draft.
Fox is his rights, unsigned and technically college UFA risk, but he is the target.

Zuc + Rangers 2 2nd round picks in 2018 [NYR + NJD]
for
rights to Fox
Calgary's 2 picks 4th round both 2018 + 2019
and some other very small +

Over payment by the Rangers.
Zuc for Fox + small add seems to be a reasonable starting point.
Why would the Rangers give up 2 2nd rd picks for 4 total 4th rd picks?
Extra moving parts are unnecessary. The Rangers would be much better off selecting with those 2 2nd rd picks.

 

[Shootertooter]

Package of picks would suit me..

They don't have a first.

 

[slg1963]

Over payment by the Rangers.
Zuc for Fox + small add seems to be a reasonable starting point.
Why would the Rangers give up 2 2nd rd picks for 4 total 4th rd picks?
Extra moving parts are unnecessary. The Rangers would be much better off selecting with those 2 2nd rd picks.

Agree with this 100 % , Rangers giving up way too much . Zuc for Fox and a 2nd

 

[rockinghockey]

Yes.

The Rangers could probably get a 1st for Zuccarello at the deadline as a rental. The fact that Calgary doesn't have their 1st this year hurts them in such a negotiation, especially if they dont want to go back to back years without a first.
They might get a first but a late first
So yes Flames would need to start with Fox and go from there.

 

[Lays]

Fox+2019 1st for Zucc+3rd or something minor

 

[cwede]

WOW the Flames have no picks in Rd 1,2,3 this year and no 2 next
NYR want to get young
i think Rasmus(53d OA'15) and Ruzicka(109th OA'17) would be fair

 

[NYR Viper]

If Calgary offered Adam Fox + CAL 2nd '18 I'd be fine with that.

If they want to expand on that how about:

Zuccarello + TB 1st '18 for Fox + CAL 2nd '18 + CAL 1st '19

Calgary gets a 1st this year and the Rangers spread out their picks to 2019 a bit

 

[treple13]

The problem here is that Zuccarello is a left shot. I can't see us giving up our best remaining trade pieces for a left shot.

I'd rather us look at other targets.