Proposal: Zibanejad to the Avs

[Nopuckluck]

to Avalanche
Mika Zibanejad

to Rangers
Ottawa 1st this year
A good right d prospect

Rangers continue to stockpile assets and futures while Colorado gets an elite 2nd line center to compliment McKinnon

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[WeRa]

to Avalanche
Mika Zibanejad

to Rangers
Ottawa 1st this year
A good right d prospect

Rangers continue to stockpile assets and futures while Colorado gets an elite 2nd line center to compliment McKinnon

1st + Makar?

 

[Lays]

to Avalanche
Mika Zibanejad

to Rangers
Ottawa 1st this year
A good right d prospect

Rangers continue to stockpile assets and futures while Colorado gets an elite 2nd line center to compliment McKinnon

Avs don’t do this, that Sens pick is too valuable.
I don’t have any interest in trading Zib as well, at least as of now, Hayes is likely being moved and Chytil isn’t ready to be a 1C yet

 

[Lays]

1st + Makar?

Cmon now

 

[Taluss]

There is no way they are ditching Otts pick. Do Avs have a first of their own? Maybe then?

 

[tucker3434]

With Ottawa sitting 2 points away from second to last, their pick is as unavailable as it has ever been.

 

[flyfysher]

to Avalanche
Mika Zibanejad

to Rangers
Ottawa 1st this year
A good right d prospect

Rangers continue to stockpile assets and futures while Colorado gets an elite 2nd line center to compliment McKinnon

No thank you.

 

[Kupo]

We’ve been down this path before.. Recently too..

Colorado is not moving the Sens pick.

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[Dr Quincy]

1st + Makar?

Rangers would be lucky to get 1 of those pieces for Zib. I doubt COL moves either. This is just plain silly.

 

[Nopuckluck]

So the Avs fans bitch and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

 

[tucker3434]

So the Avs fans ***** and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

Just because we have a need doesn’t mean we’re looking to fill it at any cost.

 

[Mr Zappalanche]

So the Avs fans ***** and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

You are not getting Ottawa 1 st. [MOD]

 

[Joe Sakic]

So the Avs fans ***** and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

Did you just type "and a really good one at that"?

 

[Super Hans]

Asking for Ottawa 1st + Cale Makar for Mika Zibanejad isn't far off from the Avs asking for NYR 1st + Lias Andersson for Tyson Barrie.

 

[Lundy HOF]

With Ottawa sitting 2 points away from second to last, their pick is as unavailable as it has ever been.

Isn’t like half the league 4-6 points away from picking top 5? There is way too much volatility at this stage of the season to attach any sort of realistic value to the pick unless it’s generically “they won’t make the playoffs”. The Ott pick could be 2 or it could be 8.

Either way, 1st + Makar is most likely a bit much but Zib is criminally underrated imo. If he is healthy he is lock for 55+ pts at a minimum and plays well above average defensively and is good in the dot.

 

[Freudian]

So the Avs fans ***** and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

There are plenty of Avs fans that are perfectly happy to let things play out this season and see what happens when Makar, Timmins, Kaut and possibly Ottawa 1st round pick is added next year.

It's not like Avs have zero secondary scoring. Kerfoot has 18 points and Söderberg has 15 points.

Ottawas 1st rounder isn't just "a first". It has a very good chance of being a top ten pick and a decent chance of being a top five pick. That's the reason you included it in your proposal to start with.

 

[tucker3434]

Isn’t like half the league 4-6 points away from picking top 5? There is way too much volatility at this stage of the season to attach any sort of realistic value to the pick unless it’s generically “they won’t make the playoffs”. The Ott pick could be 2 or it could be 8.

Either way, 1st + Makar is most likely a bit much but Zib is criminally underrated imo. If he is healthy he is lock for 55+ pts at a minimum and plays well above average defensively and is good in the dot.

They’re firmly in the running for a top 5 pick and their PDO is currently above average. Plus, the obvious, they could finish 8th from last and still win a lottery spot. It isn’t something we’re going to trade for 2nd line help.

 

[Dr Quincy]

So the Avs fans ***** and moan about being a 1 line team and needing a bona fide 2nd line center but when a proposal is made offering one (and a really good one at that) a first and a prospect is too much?

Then stay a 1 line team and keep being a bubble team. Look at what teams pay for pieces then get back to me

A first and a prospect can mean many things. In this case you know darn well that you are asking for 2 top 5 prospects. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[DarthProbert]

With Ottawa sitting 2 points away from second to last, their pick is as unavailable as it has ever been.

Well it's been moved once, so it's obviously been available at one point.

 

[Iracundia]

Kerfoot 23GP 18pts
Zibby 24GP 19 pts

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Kerfoot 23GP 18pts
Zibby 24GP 19 pts

And that's with Zibby playing 5:45 more per game so far this season.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Isn’t like half the league 4-6 points away from picking top 5? There is way too much volatility at this stage of the season to attach any sort of realistic value to the pick unless it’s generically “they won’t make the playoffs”. The Ott pick could be 2 or it could be 8.

Either way, 1st + Makar is most likely a bit much but Zib is criminally underrated imo. If he is healthy he is lock for 55+ pts at a minimum and plays well above average defensively and is good in the dot.

Yes. I think the Senators were about 19th overall several days ago iirc, or around that. Who knows where they'll be next week or at any time. They can score, but can't defend.

 

[WeRa]

Asking for Ottawa 1st + Cale Makar for Mika Zibanejad isn't far off from the Avs asking for NYR 1st + Lias Andersson for Tyson Barrie.

Not for Barrie but Landeskog. Zibanejad is one of the best in NY. IMO Barrie value for Avs isn't as high.

 

[cgf]

At the draft something as high as the Ottawa pick (if it's not top 4 or 5) + Timmins + a b-prospect/the OTT 3rd round pick...assuming we couldn't use a similar basis for a trade for a better Center and Barrie wasn't looking for something crazy like 10M on his extension...could make sense for the avs.

Lets the Rangers focus on selling off their rentals first; it turns that sens pick into less of a wild gamble to give up; it lets Timmins get back onto the ice in games, and Colordo to have a better sense for the kids that are already in the organization.

Although with how poorly they're tanking this year, I understand the argument that shipping Zibby & Kreider out ASAFP may not be the worst of ideas

 

[tucker3434]

Well it's been moved once, so it's obviously been available at one point.

*since it came into our possession.