Player Discussion Zach Parise

[a79krgm]

If it's anything like the old ankle guards, then ya, they suck. Even back in the old leather skate days they were around, but most players didn't use them because they slowed you down. The top end skates now are so protective that they protect you from all but the heaviest(or unlucky) shot.

They didn't slow this guy down

 

[Bazeek]

Fair point. But given what we actually know, and what can be easily figured out, about the two guys, it isn't hard to figure out which of the two is the bigger pain in the ass.

Admittedly, if I was snowed in on a mountain with both of them Parise is probably the one I'd want to eat first.

On second thought, I might just volunteer and get it over with.

 

[TaLoN]

Meh, people read into quotes what their own perceptions want them to read into them. Hence some people call Suter a problem, others say they don't see it, but see Parise is a problem... see what you will.

 

[a79krgm]

His effort alone night after night makes his contract worth it. He never quits.

You may also mention how much of a positive impact Parise can have on the upcoming class of Wild ... Boldy for one. That hard work that he displays must rub off on these new kids.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Meh, people read into quotes what their own perceptions want them to read into them. Hence some people call Suter a problem, others say they don't see it, but see Parise is a problem... see what you will.

I don't think it's necessarily Suter that is the problem,. but how Minnesota structures their defense. Both Stoner and I think Dumba alluded to this pretty heavily in their comments.

 

[2Pair]

I don't think it's necessarily Suter that is the problem,. but how Minnesota structures their defense. Both Stoner and I think Dumba alluded to this pretty heavily in their comments.

Going to need you to provide a source on your claim that Dumba said anything about Suter and/or icetime.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Going to need you to provide a source on your claim that Dumba said anything about Suter and/or icetime.

It was one of Russo's articles I believe last year during the playoffs when Dumba (or another defenseman) mentioned it was nice that they were getting more ice time for development. Hard to go through all of Russo's articles.

 

[2Pair]

It was one of Russo's articles I believe last year during the playoffs when Dumba (or another defenseman) mentioned it was nice that they were getting more ice time for development. Hard to go through all of Russo's articles.

Provide the quote please

 

[thestonedkoala]

Provide the quote please

Give me a way to search for articles back in April of 2018.

 

[2Pair]

Give me a way to search for articles back in April of 2018.

Not sure if serious?

 

[thestonedkoala]

Not sure if serious?

I am. Also a way to search Russo's Tweets and the Athletic if I'm not signed up. While I'm doing that, give me concrete proof that Parise is the issue.

 

[2Pair]

I am. Also a way to search Russo's Tweets and the Athletic if I'm not signed up. While I'm doing that, give me concrete proof that Parise is the issue.

How are you quoting the Athletic if you don't actually read it? Sounds lto me ike you're making shit up again.

 

[Bazeek]

Count me in as not remembering Dumba ever expressing or alluding to issues with ice time.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Clayton Stoner complaining about Suter "stealing" his ice time was so f***ing hilarious to read.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I have no sympathy for Parise's "hockey-life crisis" or whatever.

It was well within his ability to take a 7 or 8 year deal, give the best years he had left to the state, and still be able to chase the Cup in his late 30's. Of course, taking a 7 or 8 year deal would've meant guaranteeing himself "only" $50 or $60 million, instead of the $98 million. He chose the money.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Clayton Stoner complaining about Suter "stealing" his ice time was so ****ing hilarious to read.

He clarified later what he meant. Did you miss that?

 

[2Pair]

He clarified later what he meant. Did you miss that?

Why don't you clarify it for everyone and post the quote?

 

[P10p]

Cant feel sorry for Parise. Just for the simple fact that hes a multimillionaire by playing hockey. Take the pity party elsewhere and just play.

 

[DANOZ28]

parise wasn't coming here unless he got big money. don't blame the player , blame mgmt. if you don't like the deal.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Why don't you clarify it for everyone and post the quote?

In January, Stoner told the Orange County Register, “I didn’t like the way it was run in Minnesota. They kind of just give one defenseman (Ryan Suter) all the minutes, and the rest suffer. And I wasn’t happy there. I don’t think the minutes displayed how I was playing. It was more of just the way things were run there.”

“I think you guys kind of twisted that story,” Stoner said of the media. “It wasn’t a story on the Wild, it had to do with me liking the way the (Ducks coach Bruce Boudraeu) coached the back end on our team. So I was a little disappointed to see how you guys wrote it and threw me under the bus saying, ‘Stoner called out the team and Suter.’ ”

Now, show me concrete evidence that Parise has been the problem to this team?Or are you making stuff up again?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

He clarified later what he meant. Did you miss that?

Probably. I still wouldn't value Clayton Stoner's opinion about the split of defensive ice time, clarification or not.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

parise wasn't coming here unless he got big money. don't blame the player , blame mgmt. if you don't like the deal.

I'm not blaming Parise for taking the money. But I feel 0% sorry about "the hockey stuff being hard" when he knew exactly what signing that contract meant for the rest of his career.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Now, show me concrete evidence that Parise has been the problem to this team?Or are you making stuff up again?

Um, unless they blatantly mis-quoted him in the first one, there's nothing the media did to "twist his words or his meaning". It's pretty clear, and he all but calls out Suter by name.

That second quote is just your standard backtracking that's done when you know you said something you shouldn't have. Blame the media for taking this "out of context". Pretty textbook.

Thanks for finding those though. Almost as funny reading them the 2nd time around.

 

[SupremeNachos]

Cant feel sorry for Parise. Just for the simple fact that hes a multimillionaire by playing hockey. Take the pity party elsewhere and just play.

He isn't asking for people to feel sorry for him. He is just answering a question that was asked of him.

 

[Drewcifer]

Now, show me concrete evidence that Parise has been the problem to this team?Or are you making stuff up again?

There is this - bringing in your own coach is probably not the best move:

Mike Yeo speaks out on turmoil within Wild, Adam Oates intrusion