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TheGroceryStick

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Jan 19, 2009
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Lucic-Stamkos-Marner
JvR-Nylander-Laine
Komarov-Bozak-Soshnikov
Laich-Gauthier-Hyman

Rielly-Shattenkirk
Gardiner-Zeitsev
Hunwick-Carrick

:P

But seriously, I wouldn't go to 'drastic' until we can figure out this Expansion situation.
 

The Podium

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Feb 19, 2010
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Here is my completely un-realistic (realistic-ish) proposal for what I want the Leafs to do and hope they do, or hope the stars align.

Win the lottery (1st overall) - Draft Matthews
Pittsburgh holds the last playoff spot and is bounced in the first round (15th overall)
Trade 15th overall + WSH 2nd + Kapanen for the 6th overall
Draft Chychrun 6th overall
Trade Kadri to NJ for Severson
Trade Bozak (25% retained) to Anaheim for Fredrick Andersen RFA Rights
Sign Stamkos 7 x 9.5
Sign Matt Martin 3 years 2.5 mill
Sign Zaitsev 3 year ELC
Sign Vesey 3 year ELC
Trade Michalek, Greening, Hunwick, Laich, Bernier, Holland for anything

Vesey - Stamkos - Hyman
Soshnikov - Matthews - Marner
JVR - Nylander - Komarov
Martin - Gauthier - Froese
Extra Lupul

Rielly - Severson
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Carrick - Chychrun

Andersen
Sparks

The bolded are who I'd protect in an expansion draft. Vesey, Gauthier, Hyman, Soshnikov, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Zaitsev, Chychrun are exempt. This would leave Froese, Lupul and Sparks exposed.
 
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Byron Bitz

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Apr 6, 2010
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JVR-Stamkos-Michalek
Komarov-Kadri-Soshnikov
Holland-Nylander-Marner
Leipsic-Laich-Hyman
Brown, Greening

Pietrangelo-Rielly
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Percy-Carrick
Loov-Corrado

Ward
Bernier


Trade Bozak, Marincin, Kapanen and pittsburgs 1st (18th overall) for Piertangelo and a cap dump. Sign Stamkos and Ward

Ward
Bernier
 

bigfreeze

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JVR-Stamkos-Marner
Komarov-Nylander-Matthews/Laine
Michalek-Kadri-Soshnikov
Brown-Laich-Hyman
Greening


Rielly-Marincin
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Loov-Carrick
Percy

Bernier
Sparks

Sign Stamkos (not getting my hopes too high on this, but would be huge)
Drafting Matthews or Laine or Puljujarvi. If 4th, then likely send the kid back for a year.
Marner will get a few games in the NHL, and could be sent down after a bundle, or stick with the club. I think Babcock likes Brown enough to put him on the 1st line if Marner doesn't stick.
Sign Zaitsev. But I don't see many changes on the blueline, and in goal. I think Corrado and/or Harrington could be traded.
 

desperateblue

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Jun 17, 2004
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Jvr stammer marner
Sosh Nylander hyman
Komarov Matthews kapenen
Brown Gauthier Laich

Rielly zaitsev
Gardner hunwick
Loov Percy/dermott

Bibeau
Sparks
 

as Pure as Evil

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Sep 18, 2011
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in a perfect world this is how id envision the summer

leafs draft Mathews, sign stamkos , trade kadri + a couple of our extra season defense prospects for a decent high potential defender. explore options for komarov depending on how eager he is to win now. sign zatsiev , have Mathews and marner both start off on the wing. depending on feel maybe Mathews on the left, and marner on the right or vice versa

jvr - stamkos - komarov/trade
X/resign/free agent -bozak - Mathews/marner
X/resign/free agent - nylander - hyman
X/resign/free agent - laich - Gauthier


I do think kap/zerg and nitro will need atleast one more year for seasoning. possibly the goat as well. in hence why I have him on the wing tho if he does stick he will be at C I didn't include milan and such but they should be included with the x's I didn't know where to slot sosh till everyone else is filled in

for defence. it gets tricky

rielly - x/free agent/trade
gardiner - zatsiev
carrick/marlie - marincin/marlie
Marlie
 
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desperateblue

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Just had a thought when running the draft simulator.
Say the leafs got #1 and Phoenix had #4
Would you trade Matthews for one of tkachuck/chychrun/Nylander and Dylan strome?

Would make sense to fill more than one position and Matthews isn't mcjesus
 

bobermay

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Mar 6, 2009
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To Anaheim:
JVR

To Toronto:
Vatanen


To Arizona:
Milan Michalek
Stuart Percy
Devil's 3rd 2016

To Toronto:
Chris Pronger
NYR 1st 2016


To Detriot:
Peter Holland
Scott Harrington (is waiver eligible, right?)
Leafs' 6th 2016

To Toronto:
Riley Sheahan
Red Wings' 4th 2016

Sign: Stamkos, Eriksson

Eriksson(6.25)-Stamkos(10)-Nylander(0.9)
Komarov(2.95)-Kadri(4.5)-Soshnikov(0.75)
Leivo(1)-Bozak(4.2)-Brown(0.7)
Greening(2.65)-Sheahan(1.25)-Hyman(0.9)
Marner(0.925), Laich(4.25)

Rielly(5)-Vatanen(4.85)
Gardiner(4.25)-Carrick (1)
Marincin(2.5)-Corrado (0.95)
Hunwick(1.2)

Ward(2.75)
Bernier(4.15)

Kessel (1.2)
Gleason (1.3)
Cowen(-0.65)

Caphit = 70 mil




Marlies:

Leipsic-Smith-Kapanen
Timashov-Arcobello-Johnson
Clune-Gauthier-Lindberg
Findlay-Carrick-Cameronessi

Campbell-Valiev
Dermott-Holl
Nielsen-Loov

Sparks
Bibeau

Draft:
4th - D Jakob Chychrun
20th - F Logan Brown
25th - F Tage Thompson
33rd - D Markus Niemelainen
58th - F Adam Mascherin
63rd - D Luke Green
91st - D Sean Day
 
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Trapper

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Just had a thought when running the draft simulator.
Say the leafs got #1 and Phoenix had #4
Would you trade Matthews for one of tkachuck/chychrun/Nylander and Dylan strome?

Would make sense to fill more than one position and Matthews isn't mcjesus

Matthews is the only pick I wouldn't trade.
I would trade the 2nd for a quality top D and draft Nylander if the opportunity was there.
 

gabeliscious

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Jan 8, 2009
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jvr stamkos nylander
puljujarvi bozak brown
komorov kadri marner
shoshnikov laich michalek
leivo

rielly demers
gardiner zaitsev
hunwick carrick

lehtonen
sparky
 

BodaciousBeefBazooka

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Apr 4, 2013
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Lol we aren't getting stamkos. We won't get Matthews/Laine etc either.... We will get either tkachuk, A. Nylander or Chychrun...

A. Nylander/Tkachuk-W.Nylander-JVR
Soshnikov-Kadri-Marner
komarov-Leich-Michalek
Leipsec/Brown-Greening-Holland
 
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Maplebeasts

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Oct 26, 2014
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Lol we aren't getting stamkos. We won't get Matthews/Laine etc either....so let's be realistically. We will get either tkachuk, A. Nylander or Chychrun...

A. Nylander/Tkachuk-W.Nylander-JVR
Soshnikov-Kadri-Marner
komarov-Leich-Michalek
Leipsec-Greening-Holland

Can you give me next week's lotto numbers?
 

BodaciousBeefBazooka

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Apr 4, 2013
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Can you give me next week's lotto numbers?

You don't have to be a psychic to figure it out. Just use common sense considering our position we are in right now + the games we still have remaining to play. Don't be a wise guy. Also I think stamkos has a better chance winning a cup with tampa bay than with a rebuilding leafs team, no? It's not magic or hard to understand
 

Maplebeasts

I See Demons!!!!!
Oct 26, 2014
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Barrie, Ontario
You don't have to be a psychic to figure it out. Just use common sense considering our position we are in right now + the games we still have remaining to play. Don't be a wise guy. Also I think stamkos has a better chance winning a cup with tampa bay than with a rebuilding leafs team, no? It's not magic or hard to understand

Well we are still 30th overall, and have a tough schedule to finish the regular season. I will be surprised if we escape the bottom three, in which case we are very much still in the Matthews/Puljujarvi/Laine sweepstakes.
 

beamer67

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Nov 22, 2009
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Most of you have Nylander at center next year. But given Babcocks comments, I think it's more likely he'll start at the wing.
 

Stringer Bell

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I have no idea what they're going to do next year. You just can't have that many rookies in the NHL.

That being said, I truly believe the following players are ready for full time duty in the NHL, whether it be with the Leafs or another team:

William Nylander
Brendan Leipsic
Joshua Leivo
Zach Hyman
Sam Carrick
Nikita Soshnikov
Connor Brown
Stuart Percy
Scott Harrington
Frankie Corrado
Viktor Loov


Leivo, Sam Carrick, Percy, Harrington, and Corrado all hit waivers next year if they don't make the team. If Sam Carrick is resigned he is the only one I believe might slide through. Leivo, Percy, Harrington and Corrado are all either on opening roster or playing for a different organization. I don't think there is any in between.

Nylander, Hyman, and Soshnikov have all shown that not only can they compete in the NHL but that they stand out as regulars. Don't see how any of the three play for the Marlies next year. They won't put Nylander down next year unless he does something off ice that causes a problem, as I'm sure there's not much more he can do down in the AHL. Based on their effort levels alone, Babcock would prefer Hyman and Soshnikov on the team far more than most regulars he is forced to use like Lupul, Holland, Grabner, etc, so they're locks.

Brown, Leipsic, and Loov are waiver exempt so they probably get sent down and see spot duty during injuries until we trade more assets off next deadline and they're up full time. But in reality has anyone watched them this year and thought they don't deserve to be playing full time. It's funny, if they were assets of the Blackhawks, Rangers, Predators, etc...teams that always have one cheap spot to fill and very rarely any prospects as good...these players would slide right in like a Trevor Van Riemsdyk for Chicago, etc. But a really crappy team like the Leafs have too many similar players at similar points in their development.

No idea what they're going to do.
 

Kiwi

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Got 4 on the predictor
Draft Dubois (C/LW)
Trade JVR for MTL first 7/10 draft Sergachev (D)
Draft Rubtsov (C) with Pitt pick 16/18
Sign PAP 2.5 × 2 YEARS
Sign Zaitzev

Komorov Kadri Soshnikov
PAP Nylander Hyman
Leivo Bozak Brown
Michalek Laich Greening

Reilly Marincin
Gardiner Zaitzev
Hunwick Carrick

Bernier
UFA (backup)


At the TDL next year to move
Kadri if he wants more than 5.2 per
Hunwick
Mahalek
Greening(if possible)
Laich (if possible)
Lupul (we can all dream)
Bernier(maybe)


I would not be against Mariner Kapanen Leipsig Valiev or Corrado or any other Marlie making the team if they have a good camp
 

lifelonghockeyfan

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Just editing some suggestions
Why would the Leafs want Detroit's Ericsson? Awful.
It's nice to UFAs, but it not possible just to trade away bad contracts like Lupul's or Laich
Some players have no value as trade material....Holland, Percy, Harrington.
Personally I like the Leafs team but it will take a couple of years to shape the team when the contracts of Bernier, Bozak, Laich, Lupul expire. Gee, Leafs fans have waited since 1967, just wait five more years for the next Cup
 

Amadeus

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:leafs

JVR - Steven Stamkos - Mitch Marner
Jimmy Vesey - Tyler Bozak - William Nylander
Leo Komarov - Nazem Kadri - Jesse Puljujarvi
Milan Michalek - Zach Hyman - Nikita Soshnikov
Brooks Laich​

Rielly - Marincin
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Carrick - Hunwick
Loov

Jonathan Bernier
Antti Raanta

Free Agency:
Steven Stamkos
Jimmy Vesey
Antti Raanta
Mantas Armalis

Draft:

Jesse Puljujarvi - 3rd
Max Jones - 17th
 
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sxvnert

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Nov 23, 2015
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JVR Bozak Soshnikov
Leipsic Kadri Komarov
Marner Nylander Hyman
Michalek Laich Brown
Greening

Rielly Zaitsev
Gardiner Carrick
Hunwick Marincin/Loov

Andersen/Ward
Bernier
 

lukeleim

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-Trade Peter Holland (RFA) to the Boston Bruins for Colin Miller (RFA)
-Draft Patrik Laine, Charlie McAvoy and Carter Hart
-Buyout Joffrey Lupul and Jared Cowen

-Resign Nazem Kadri four-year contract for $20 million
-Resign Morgan Rielly six-year contract for $31.2 million
-Resign Connor Carrick one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Frank Corrado one-year contract for $700,000
-Resign Colin Miller one-year contract for $900,000
-Resign Martin Marincin two-year contract for $2.2 million
-Resign Josh Leivo, Colin Smith, Sam Carrick, Scott Harrington and Rich Clune

-Sign Nikita Zaitsev one-year ELC
-Sign Jimmy Vesey three-year ELC
-Sign Steven Stamkos seven-year contract for $66.5 million
-Sign Antti Raanta two-year contract for $2 million

2016-17 Toronto Maple Leafs

James van Riemsdyk - Steven Stamkos - William Nylander
Milan Michalek - Nazem Kadri - Leo Komarov
Jimmy Vesey - Tyler Bozak - Zach Hyman
Colin Greening - Brooks Laich - Nikita Soshnikov


Morgan Rielly - Martin Marincin
Jake Gardiner - Nikita Zaitsev
Matt Hunwick - Connor Carrick/Frank Corrado/Colin Miller
Scott Harrington

Jonathan Bernier
Antti Raanta
 

McMatthews

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If we can get Matthews and Stamkos:

LW....STAMKOS.....NYLANDER
LW....MATTHEWS....MARNER
LW.......C........RW
LW.......C........RW


OTHER WINGERS:

JAMES VAN RIEMSDYK
NIKITA SOSHNIKOV
LEO KOMAROV
ZACH HYMAN
BRENDAN LEIPSIC
MILAN MICHALEK
P-A PARENTEAU [RE-SIGN]

OTHER CENTRES:

BROOKS LAICH
PETER HOLLAND

HOPEFULS:

ANDREAS JOHNSON (W)
CONNOR BROWN (W)
COLIN GREENING
KASPERI KAPANEN (W)
TOBIAS LINDBERG (W)
BYRON FROESE (C)
SAM CARRICK (C)

DEFENCE:

MORGAN RIELLY
JAKE GARDINER
NIKITA ZAITSEV [SIGN]
CONNOR CARRICK
MARTIN MARINCIN
FRANK CORRADO
MATT HUNWICK

HOPEFULS:

VIKTOR LOOV
RINAT VALIEV
SCOTT HARRINGTON

GOALTENDERS:

GARRET SPARKS
ANTOINE BIBEAU

TRADEBAIT:

NAZEM KADRI (C)
TYLER BOZAK (C)
JOFFREY LUPUL (W)
JOSH LEIVO (W)
STUART PERCY (D)
JONATHAN BERNIER (G)
 

pooleboy

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Dec 23, 2009
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i got a feeling if Washington doesn't win the cup we could trade laich back to them with salary retained....

just my gut feeling.
 

carko32

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i got a feeling if Washington doesn't win the cup we could trade laich back to them with salary retained....

just my gut feeling.

Can't be traded back with salary retention 1 year after the first trade. But we can trade him back with retention at next trade-deadline.
 

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