Confirmed Trade: [WSH/MTL] Ilya Kovalchuk (50% retained) for 2020 3rd round pick

[Stickpucker]

No, its not safe to say. Bergevin has actually done fairly well on most of his trades. The teams drafting and development has really sucked, which is why we are where we are.

Trading a 2nd and a 5th for Jeff Petry
Trading Pacioretty for Tatar, Suzuki, and a 2nd
Trading Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann for Phil Danault and a pick
Trading Alex Galchenyuk for Max Domi

These are all home run trades for Montreal. Creating a third round pick out of thin air is nice but the likelihood it turns into anything useful is pretty darn close to zero.

These are good trades but it's hard when you put it in context of teams around you and see your trade bumped the needle over 2 units then other teams make big adds that jump the needle up 10 units. Can't win improving by mm when others improve by meters.

 

[Frank Drebin]

These are good trades but it's hard when you put it in context of teams around you and see your trade bumped the needle over 2 units then other teams make big adds that jump the needle up 10 units. Can't win improving by mm when others improve by meters.

This really wasn't a discussion on Bergevin's work as a whole, but rather this move "being one of his smartest". These types of moves are celebrated on HF but they're fairly insignificant.

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

The irony is off the charts here.

In what sense

 

[SouthGeorge]

You could have gotten a ton of players much better than Marleau for free or virtually free this offseason. Haula, Nichushkin, Ennis. Trading a potential 2nd rounder for a 41 year old 20 point fossil is a much more desperate move than trading a 3rd rounder for a still effective Kovalchuk at 70k

It's only a 2nd if we win a Cup which everyone would be perfectly fine with. We needed wing/center depth with all our injuries. Kovy has done nothing with the Caps and -3. Like I said desperate move.

 

[CupInSIX]

In what sense

Marleau would only waive his NTC for the Sharks and he would only sign with the Sharks or a Western team close to his family in SJ once his contract was bought out.

It was WIDELY reported and everyone seems to know about it but you.

 

[Kuznetsnow]

It's only a 2nd if we win a Cup which everyone would be perfectly fine with. We needed wing/center depth with all our injuries. Kovy has done nothing with the Caps and -3. Like I said desperate move.

As opposed to everything Marleau has done with the Pens lol. Kovalchuk actually has a track record of being an impact player this year.

But yeah, nice job paying a potential 2nd for a healthy scratch instead of a 3rd for a guy who's be a top 6 forward on your team

 

[Jerkbait]

As opposed to everything Marleau has done with the Pens lol. Kovalchuk actually has a track record of being an impact player this year.

But yeah, nice job paying a potential 2nd for a healthy scratch instead of a 3rd for a guy who's be a top 6 forward on your team

Marleau played one game lol...

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

Marleau would only waive his NTC for the Sharks and he would only sign with the Sharks or a Western team close to his family in SJ once his contract was bought out.

It was WIDELY reported and everyone seems to know about it but you.

And yet we have literally two trades in 6 months to non-Western conference teams.


“Everyone seems to know” is literally speculation. The actual details of his transactions has him agreeing to at least one if not both trades to Eastern Conference teams.

There was never a guarantee SJS would resign him, in fact it was reported by “everyone” that he wasn’t high in their priorities


My point is, the guy is making league min, so he likely gave them the go ahead to trade him for assets. It’s not hard to imagine a world where Pitt offers above league min in 2019 and he signs there. It’s a one year deal, not a 7 year commitment. If Pitt wanted him in 2019 like OP suggested they could have hade him, they probably just would have had to pay slightly more

 

[kp61c]

this trade is like shooting yourself in the foot. brutal stuff.