Claimed off Waivers: [WSH] Axel Jonsson-Fjallby claimed off waivers by the Capitals from the Sabres

[MMC]

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[Empoleon8771]

For reference, the fact that Washington got him back means that no one else put a claim in on him, meaning they're free to send him to the AHL without waivers to my knowledge.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I got it better this time.

This ain't a trade, it's a God don't waiver claim

 

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[serp]

 

[cwede]

For reference, the fact that Washington got him back means that no one else put a claim in on him, meaning they're free to send him to the AHL without waivers to my knowledge.

well, sorta -I believe there's a bit more to it

(a) "the fact that Washington got him back means that no one else AHEAD IN WAIVER PRIORITY put a claim in on him"

(b) that "they're free to send him to the AHL without waivers" is what indicates that no other team at all claimed him. when posted to waivers this time around. Thus his prior waiving team can demote without waiving again after (re)claim

 

[Stive Morgan]

Reminds me of Urbom going from the Devils to the Caps for like 1 month lol, except this time it was like 5 days

 

[CupInSIX]

For reference, the fact that Washington got him back means that no one else put a claim in on him, meaning they're free to send him to the AHL without waivers to my knowledge.

I thought Washington had dibs because he was claimed from them.

 

[uncleben]

For those interested, this cost Washington $56,250, paid to Buffalo and not counted against the cap.

 

[MMC]

 

[uncleben]

I thought Washington had dibs because he was claimed from them.

No it's normal waiver priority. Only benefit Washington gets is if they are the only team to put in a claim, they can send him straight to the minors (as, at that point every team in the League would have passed on him as an NHL player) - and this is what happened today. Washington was the only team to put in a claim, so they are free to immediately assign him to the minors

 

[searle]

For those interested, this cost Washington $56,250, paid to Buffalo and not counted against the cap.

How does that work? I wasn't aware there was any financial transaction involved in waivers.

 

[uncleben]

How does that work? I wasn't aware there was any financial transaction involved in waivers.

It essentially is of little value to the fan, but it's a little known fact that I like to report it, anyway

It's a compensation. No contract is transactionable without a fee (save for the neutered modern-day "future considerations" which practically does mean nothing, now); there must be a return in order to transfer a player.
This waiver fee is based on the players experience in the league, and position - they can be as high as $90,000 for a goaltender with 2 years of experience under a SPC, or $3,375 for a player with 10+ years under a SPC (or $125 for a player on Unconditional Waivers, for buyouts and terminations).

The rough idea is that a player with less experience has not had a chance to fully develop, so the team is compensated for developing them without reaping any of the reward, whereas a journeyman being waived, you know exactly what you are getting, and they are probably being waived for a specific reason. Consider the compensation a gradient from 'not NHL ready' to 'no longer NHL capable', and if one team says, "well if you're not going to use him, we're going to" then they pay to take over the player's contract.

 

[Lays]

For those interested, this cost Washington $56,250, paid to Buffalo and not counted against the cap.

How much did Buffalo pay when they claimed him?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

How much did Buffalo pay when they claimed him?

Same amount.

 

[uncleben]

How much did Buffalo pay when they claimed him?

Same amount, so, in effect, Buffalo gave the player back and Washington gave the money back, lol

 

[txpd]

No it's normal waiver priority. Only benefit Washington gets is if they are the only team to put in a claim, they can send him straight to the minors (as, at that point every team in the League would have passed on him as an NHL player) - and this is what happened today. Washington was the only team to put in a claim, so they are free to immediately assign him to the minors

The main benefit Washington gets is that they have a plan for this player and put effort and money into him and they get to continue.

 

[Bubbles]

At least he got a free hat and hoodie!

 

[searle]

It essentially is of little value to the fan, but it's a little known fact that I like to report it, anyway

It's a compensation. No contract is transactionable without a fee (save for the neutered modern-day "future considerations" which practically does mean nothing, now); there must be a return in order to transfer a player.
This waiver fee is based on the players experience in the league, and position - they can be as high as $90,000 for a goaltender with 2 years of experience under a SPC, or $3,375 for a player with 10+ years under a SPC (or $125 for a player on Unconditional Waivers, for buyouts and terminations).

The rough idea is that a player with less experience has not had a chance to fully develop, so the team is compensated for developing them without reaping any of the reward, whereas a journeyman being waived, you know exactly what you are getting, and they are probably being waived for a specific reason. Consider the compensation a gradient from 'not NHL ready' to 'no longer NHL capable', and if one team says, "well if you're not going to use him, we're going to" then they pay to take over the player's contract.

Interesting stuff, thanks for explaining!

 

[Snauen]

Silly stuff. Wow, team a and b have figured out how to manipulate a rule together *applause* (ironic)

 

[uncleben]

Silly stuff. Wow, team a and b have figured out how to manipulate a rule together *applause* (ironic)

...How is this manipulating a rule?

 

[Hivemind]

Silly stuff. Wow, team a and b have figured out how to manipulate a rule together *applause* (ironic)

No rules were manipulated. Washington waived him for purposes of assigning him to Hershey. As part of that normal waiver process, Buffalo claimed him. Buffalo then realized he wasn't going to make their team either, and they waved him for purposes of assigning him to the AHL. Washington claimed him. Since no other team put in a waiver claim, Washington finished assigning him to AHL Hershey. If another team wanted to claim him, they absolutely could have, which would have interrupted Washington's attempt to assign him to the AHL.

 

[Snauen]

No rules were manipulated. Washington waived him for purposes of assigning him to Hershey. As part of that normal waiver process, Buffalo claimed him. Buffalo then realized he wasn't going to make their team either, and they waved him for purposes of assigning him to the AHL. Washington claimed him. Since no other team put in a waiver claim, Washington finished assigning him to AHL Hershey. If another team wanted to claim him, they absolutely could have, which would have interrupted Washington's attempt to assign him to the AHL.

Really? You dont think they have agreed to do this on beforehand. Sure no other team picked him. Yet how fast did Buffalo pick him (were they picking ahead of other teams?) . Buffalo is helping Washington (Will most likely get a "favor" in return in the near futire) . The sole looser being the player looking foolish in the other teams jearsy for a day and then gets sent down eventhough he shouldnt have been (Because of the rules right?!) had he stayed with the team he left and immediatly came back to

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

At least he got a free hat and hoodie!

Buffalos legend

 

[HTFN]

Really? You dont think they have agreed to do this on beforehand. Sure no other team picked him. Yet how fast did Buffalo pick him (were they picking ahead of other teams?) . Buffalo is helping Washington (Will most likely get a "favor" in return in the near futire) . The sole looser being the player looking foolish in the other teams jearsy for a day and then gets sent down eventhough he shouldnt have been (Because of the rules right?!) had he stayed with the team he left and immediatly came back to

Why would they need to?

All Washington would need in order to do what they wanted in the first place is for Buffalo to do... nothing. 29 teams saw it happen and didn't get in the way. What "favor" did Buffalo do by getting in the way of a waiver transaction that nobody else wanted to stop?