Speculation: Would you have given up a similar package for Eichel?

[1909]

What is "similar package " ?

Anyway, bad move by Vegas.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Nope, Eichels an injury prone whiner, he’s not a Top 5C in the league, he might some day put up Top 5 points but he’s just a more talented Drouin.

 

[cphabs]

Easy to say now, but what if he had scored, say, 5 goals in the first ten games?

I'm also in favour of trading a similar package as Vegas. But Caufield's upside is much higher than anyone Vegas moved. Whether that's realized or not is a different matter.

CC is currently in a re-education camp so to speak…

 

[Frankenheimer]

CC is currently in a re-education camp so to speak…

…and? Everything he’s done at the NCAA, last season and playoffs is now history?

I can’t emphasize enough that 10 games ago there was universal consensus that he was untouchable. It shows what kind of a train wreck our team would be if they followed any advice given on this board.

 

[cphabs]

…and? Everything he’s done at the NCAA, last season and playoffs is now history?

It can’t emphasize enough that 10 games ago there was universal consensus that he was untouchable. It shows what kind of a train wreck our team would be if they followed any advice given on this board.

Is this a trick question?

 

[Michelangelo]

Nope, Eichels an injury prone whiner, he’s not a Top 5C in the league, he might some day put up Top 5 points but he’s just a more talented Drouin.

He was top 10 (78pts in 68 gms) right before COVID hit in 2019-20, and somehow that's not enough? He was 4th in points for centres, behind McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews

 

[rickthegoon]

Because of his injury ( I think most people do not realize how serious it is ) and his attitude since he’s started his career, I would not touch him with a 10 foot pole.
And the longer his surgery is on hold, the more long term effect he’ll have to deal with in the not too far future
I also waited too long for a cervical disk fusion ….. which led to more herniated cervical disks because of ´compensation ´ which left me with permanent damage; and ended my career that was nothing physical like a pro athlete.
This kid looks like he’s not very we’ll counseled by his entourage.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

Not for someone needing/wanting disc replacement

 

[japhi]

It is interesting that other Western teams couldn't beat that offer. I think it provides some insight into how risky teams probably feel his injury history / the surgery is. Hard to know what player you are getting - PPG Eichel, slightly diminished Eichel, or chronic injury Eichel.

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

The assets arent the issue, more the timing. I dont think Vegas gave up that much really provided Eichel will be healthy.

Mtl needs to rebuild. The entire blueline needs an overhaul. The winger depth is their but all streaky, kind of one dimensional players

Mtl isnt 1 player away, they are about 6

Timing! That's right. Eichel was traded for the equivalent of himself x3 as a very good offensive 3C or maybe a 2c... eichel will never be the same... Ill eat crow if he is..

 

[Pickles]

At this point given our current situation no. I'd sell the entire house and start over.

This is the way I feel too. We can't draft or develop might as well give up the farm to acquire a real star player.

 

[Hoochi Papa]

No, I would offer more than Vegas. Man, there are so many shit contracts to add in, Gallagher, Anderson, Savard, Edmundson, Dvorak.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I think we needed to offer Dvorak, Caufield, 1st and Romanov to beat that offer.

That's getting closer, but I still like the Vegas offer more. There's more top quality in the Vegas package. I think you'd have to add something else to that package, and maybe tailor it to the players they're high on.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Well, it's certainly less than what was rumoured, Eichel was going for.

Anderson, Caufield, First and conditional second would have been what I define a similar package. The answer is no. The Habs need to tear it down, not add more ridiculous contracts.

 

[Treb]

Not paying 24 millions for a centre line with the D we have.

Also salary Cap.

 

[NORiculous]

Instead of doing 1st + 2nd vs Dvorak… could have given 2x 1st + 2x 2nd +.. vs. Eichel.

What a wast of picks on Dvorak.

 

[The Great Weal]

Instead of doing 1st + 2nd vs Dvorak… could have given 2x 1st + 2x 2nd +.. vs. Eichel.

What a wast of picks on Dvorak.

No we couldn't have. Krebs is a good player and so is Tuch. Although, that 1st+2nd could have definitely been better spent if Dvorak is going to keep not trying.

 

[NORiculous]

No we couldn't have. Krebs is a good player and so is Tuch. Although, that 1st+2nd could have definitely been better spent if Dvorak is going to keep not trying.

Tuck is ok but the prize is Krebs. I would think a 1st and a 2nd is good value vs. Krebs. Only need to add a body to the 2x 1st + 2x 2nd to replace Tuch. Gallagher?

 

[The Great Weal]

Tuck is ok but the prize is Krebs. I would think a 1st and a 2nd is good value vs. Krebs. Only need to add a body to the 2x 1st + 2x 2nd to replace Tuch. Gallagher?

Krebs is a great prospect, he's near Caufield level. I wouldn't trade Caufield for a mystery 1st and 2nd.

 

[RealityBytes]

Tuck is ok but the prize is Krebs. I would think a 1st and a 2nd is good value vs. Krebs. Only need to add a body to the 2x 1st + 2x 2nd to replace Tuch. Gallagher?

Gallagher with his contract are now negative value. Adding him to anything drops the value of the trade offered.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

He was top 10 (78pts in 68 gms) right before COVID hit in 2019-20, and somehow that's not enough? He was 4th in points for centres, behind McDavid, MacKinnon and Matthews

And how did his team do? I’ve watched him play quite a bit and you see him quit on lots of plays, maybe the losing atmosphere of Buffalo wore him down but seemed very much an individual self centered player who wasn’t committed to a 200 ft game

 

[Habs10Habs]

Kind of concerning how quick people have downgraded Caufield.

I don't think it's so much downgrading Caufield. I think it's more looking at the chance to add someone of Eichel's caliber. I'd hate to lose Caufield, I'd probably put his jersey on and cry myself to sleep lol. The chance to get a player like Eichel, would have been worth the risk to me.

 

[The Great Weal]

And how did his team do? I’ve watched him play quite a bit and you see him quit on lots of plays, maybe the losing atmosphere of Buffalo wore him down but seemed very much an individual self centered player who wasn’t committed to a 200 ft game

ROR turned into a completely different player when he left Buffalo. Hall bounced back too. The environment in Buffalo just sucked.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

ROR turned into a completely different player when he left Buffalo. Hall bounced back too. The environment in Buffalo just sucked.

Maybe but Eichel was the roots of that environment

 

[Rob Sense]

Most people on here don't seem to understand that putting racing tires on a shitty beat-up 1988 Corolla won't make it a race car.

Yet we see this all the time around town...and if they puncture the muffler it makes em sound powerful.