Worst seasons of all time great TV shows?

[Fantomas]

Season 1 of the Simpsons

Really? Season 1? Worst Simpsons season? Worse than season 126 or whatever the number is these days?

Season 1 of TNG is almost unwatchable.

11001001, Heart of Glory and Conspiracy best episodes. Big Goodbye has its moments. Everything else god awful.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Season 11 of Frasier was awful

 

[Rodgerwilco]

Season 8 of the office.

Michael Scott not being part of The Office really isn't The Office.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I love MASH but in the last few years---the 2 1.2 hour movie to end was great but the last few years were hurting

 

[Osprey]

I expected half of the discussion to be about Season 8 of Game of Thrones. I'm surprised that it hasn't even been mentioned yet.

 

[JohnC]

I expected half of the discussion to be about Season 8 of Games of Thrones. I'm surprised that it hasn't even been mentioned yet.

? Game of Thrones was cancelled after season 6. The last shot of the show was Dany sailing to Westeros.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I expected half of the discussion to be about Season 8 of Games of Thrones. I'm surprised that it hasn't even been mentioned yet.

Thank god.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

I like season 9 too. Wackier and less grounded in reality but still lots of laughs. And in the end, that’s all I really want from a sitcom.

Yep. Plus lots of Puddy and Frank.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Season 1 of The Office
Season 4 of Lost
Season 3 of Stranger Things
Seasons 5 & 6 of Game of Thrones

off the top of my head

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

I expected half of the discussion to be about Season 8 of Games of Thrones. I'm surprised that it hasn't even been mentioned yet.

No need to

 

[Shareefruck]

The whole dislike for S1 of The Office thing never really rung true for me, personally. I don't think it's anything special, but I don't think the series as a whole gets THAT much better than it (somewhat better, sure). And then it plummets well below that level later on in a way that seems a lot more deserving of being trashed, to me.

 

[Langdon Alger]

I like season 9 too. Wackier and less grounded in reality but still lots of laughs. And in the end, that’s all I really want from a sitcom.

I believe the Merv Griffin episode was in season 9. That was funny.

 

[barriers]

What show was it that did a clip show episode but none of the clips were actually clips of the show? Maybe it was Community?

Only clip show that I've ever liked.

Yep. Community did that one.

If I remember correctly the Clerks Animated series did a similar gag where the 2nd episode of the show was a clip show of the first episode and assorted new clips.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I believe the Merv Griffin episode was in season 9. That was funny.

Love the Merv Griffin Show. Same goes with The Dealership, though that gets a lot of hate from the purists.

The whole dislike for S1 of The Office thing never really rung true for me, personally. I don't think it's anything special, but I don't think the series as a whole gets THAT much better than it (somewhat better, sure). And then it plummets well below that level later on in a way that seems a lot more deserving of being trashed, to me.

Even if you don’t like season 1, it’s a clear step above anything post-Michael.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Love the Merv Griffin Show. Same goes with The Dealership, though that gets a lot of hate from the purists.



Even if you don’t like season 1, it’s a clear step above anything post-Michael.

Count me as one of those people who dislikes the Dealership. Puddy was funny in that one though. I hated George and Kramer’s storylines in that episode.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I actually think second season of The Wire is the best. I know I'm on an island on that one.

Season 2 has grown on me, but it’s still a level below 1, 3, and 4 IMO. Nicky isn’t a very compelling character, and don’t get me started on Ziggy.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Season 2 has grown on me, but it’s still a level below 1, 3, and 4 IMO. Nicky isn’t a very compelling character, and don’t get me started on Ziggy.

I was out and about tonight and am a little drunk so I'll get back to this tomorrow and while I get where you're coming from, I want to note that Frank Sobotka (and whoever played him) is both the best character and performance of The Wire, along with Avon Barksdale/Wood Harris and the entire Stanfield crew, who were all played perfectly with magnificent intonations by each major member (Marlo, Chris, Snoop, Monk and Vinson). While I get their magnetism and charm, I always thought Idris Elba and Michael K. Williams let their acting chops sink into the trope (i.e., such good actors that their performances essentially personified themes instead of being a person. I think that's a problem in a show that lives and dies on its gritty realism). They were still superb but I prefer the aforementioned ones. I think Frank Sobota and Avon Barksdale toe that line so much better.

 

[JohnC]

The whole dislike for S1 of The Office thing never really rung true for me, personally. I don't think it's anything special, but I don't think the series as a whole gets THAT much better than it (somewhat better, sure). And then it plummets well below that level later on in a way that seems a lot more deserving of being trashed, to me.

I’ve always felt the quality of The Office plummets once Jim and Pam get together. It’s still funny for a while, but it’s like the rest of the show gives you nothing else to look forward to once they start dating.

I’d still much rather watch season 1 over anything post-Michael.

Seasons 5 & 6 of Game of Thrones

I don’t consider GOT an all time great anymore ever since the disastrous ending, but I don’t see how there’s a legit case for either of these seasons being worse than seasons 7 or 8.

At the very least 5 is propelled above 7 & 8 by virtue of having a top 3 episode of the series (Hardhome) in it.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I was out and about tonight and am a little drunk so I'll get back to this tomorrow and while I get where you're coming from, I want to note that Frank Sobota (and whoever played him) is both the best character and performance of The Wire, along with Avon Barksdale/Wood Harris and the entire Stanfield crew, who were all played perfectly with magnificent intonations by each major member (Marlo, Chris, Snoop, Monk and Vinson). While I get their magnetism and charm, I always thought Idris Elba and Michael K. Williams let their acting chops sink into the trope (i.e., such good actors that their performances essentially personified themes instead of being a person. I think that's a problem in a show that lives and dies on its gritty realism). They were still superb but I prefer the aforementioned ones. I think Frank Sobota and Avon Barksdale toe that line so much better.

I agree with everything you said about Frank (Chris Bauer). He and D’Angelo are probably my two favorite characters on the show. I would push back with you a bit on Michael K and especially Idris but I get your point. Also a big Avon fan, one of the reasons why S3 is my favorite.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I agree with everything you said about Frank (Chris Bauer). He and D’Angelo are probably my two favorite characters on the show. I would push back with you a bit on Michael K and especially Idris but I get your point. Also a big Avon fan, one of the reasons why S3 is my favorite.

Oh yeah, I'm riffing and while a lot of characters are meant to fit a theme, I find the acting performances of the two I mentioned overdo the theme, especially Elba. In his later arc, his performance just shouts Not hard enough for this and not smart enough for that (Williams is an obvious crook with the heart of gold) and I don't even mean this in a derogatory way because the writing was always going to request that. I just find Sobotka (Last man holding unto a dying world) and A.Barksdale (The self-aware and brilliant gangster who'll never give up what he thinks is honor) hide/toe the line of their own themes with a less bombast, which is important for a show based on realism (i.e., the off-handed I'm just a gangster, I suppose line from Barksdale being one of the most beautiful moments of the series).

They're all great, pertinent themes and handled with enough care that there was no misfire. I just find that the latter two were done/played so, so well that they outshine the two more flashy/famous former ones.

 

[x Tame Impala]

I’ve always felt the quality of The Office plummets once Jim and Pam get together. It’s still funny for a while, but it’s like the rest of the show gives you nothing else to look forward to once they start dating.

I’d still much rather watch season 1 over anything post-Michael.


I don’t consider GOT an all time great anymore ever since the disastrous ending, but I don’t see how there’s a legit case for either of these seasons being worse than seasons 7 or 8.

At the very least 5 is propelled above 7 & 8 by virtue of having a top 3 episode of the series (Hardhome) in it.

Ramsay Bolton and the Sparrows were the worrrrrrst.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Last season of Dexter
Last season of Game of Thrones
Last season of Scrubs

 

[Shareefruck]

Yeah, Wood Harris would be my pick for best performance on The Wire, personally.

I’ve always felt the quality of The Office plummets once Jim and Pam get together. It’s still funny for a while, but it’s like the rest of the show gives you nothing else to look forward to once they start dating.

I’d still much rather watch season 1 over anything post-Michael.

Agreed. I'd much rather watch season 1 over anything post Jim-Pam hookup, too. For me, it's mostly just a three-season show, with some good moments here and there in the couple of seasons after that.

I don’t consider GOT an all time great anymore ever since the disastrous ending, but I don’t see how there’s a legit case for either of these seasons being worse than seasons 7 or 8.

At the very least 5 is propelled above 7 & 8 by virtue of having a top 3 episode of the series (Hardhome) in it.

I'd consider putting Season 5 on a similar level to 7 and 8 as well, personally.

 

[JohnC]

Ramsay Bolton and the Sparrows were the worrrrrrst.

I'd consider putting Season 5 on a similar level to 7 and 8 as well, personally.

I don't necessarily disagree with either of you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying season 5 was good, ut I genuinely don't think I can list a single redeeming quality of seasons 7 & 8.

Those two seasons took GOT from my favorite TV show ever that I'd rewatch at least twice a year to a show I haven't even watched a clip of since the finale.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I was out and about tonight and am a little drunk so I'll get back to this tomorrow and while I get where you're coming from, I want to note that Frank Sobotka (and whoever played him) is both the best character and performance of The Wire, along with Avon Barksdale/Wood Harris and the entire Stanfield crew, who were all played perfectly with magnificent intonations by each major member (Marlo, Chris, Snoop, Monk and Vinson). While I get their magnetism and charm, I always thought Idris Elba and Michael K. Williams let their acting chops sink into the trope (i.e., such good actors that their performances essentially personified themes instead of being a person. I think that's a problem in a show that lives and dies on its gritty realism). They were still superb but I prefer the aforementioned ones. I think Frank Sobota and Avon Barksdale toe that line so much better.

Agree on Sobotka, that part was so well acted it makes the season on it's own.

For me, the best performance on the show was Andre Royo as Bubbles. The pain and emotion of an addict is perfectly shown and the journey to sobriety.