Player Discussion Worst Sabre 2010-2020 - Nominations (Deadline february 28th)

[HaNotsri]

You get to nominate 1 player along with a written motivation. The first of march I will compile all the nominated players and motivations that made the deadline in one huge post along with a poll.

I'm probably too lazy to do a huge ceremony and send a prize to the "winning" player but after the poll is closed we will know who truly is the worst Sabre 2010-2020 and that is reward enough.

Please consider:

• On ice performance
• Off ice performance

Feel free to consider:

• Time spent on the Sabres roster
• Intangibles
• Cap hit
• Critical moments of failure

Poetic descriptions are welcome but if you prefer to just post stats as proof that works as well.

May the sabrest of all the dull sabres win a shoplifted billebeino cap!

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[TheMistyStranger]

Can I suggest that there is a minimum games played limit?

 

[5 Minute Major]

Ville Leino for me.

 

[brian_griffin]

There has been so much suck why limit this to a single biggest loser? Need to do this like a prospects poll. Have a top handful for the initial vote then allow posters to nominate additional. Run the poll to 15 or so. 6 =1st team (3F-2D-1G), 6 =2nd team (same), and maybe 3 coach/management. It could be cathartic.

 

[EmeraldCitySabre]

Tage Thompson?

 

[Zman5778]

I don't see how this isn't Ville Leino.

 

[Zman5778]

Tage Thompson?

Only played parts of two years for us in the 2010-2020 stretch; I can't put him amongst the biggest flops of the decade.

 

[brian_griffin]

Tage Thompson?

Likely not even in the bottom 3-5. Hasn't even played a full season's worth of games. As a trade return, sure, but that's not his fault - someone else with a large head should be impugned for that. Tage would need to embark on a serious monastic devotion to Ville Leino to fall that low on the list.

 

[EmeraldCitySabre]

I was only half serious with the Tage nomination since he's one of the main whipping boys currently.

 

[Fezzy126]

There has been so much suck why limit this to a single biggest loser? Need to do this like a prospects poll. Have a top handful for the initial vote then allow posters to nominate additional. Run the poll to 15 or so. 6 =1st team (3F-2D-1G), 6 =2nd team (same), and maybe 3 coach/management. It could be cathartic.

I like this idea maybe a little too much.

But just to answer thread title, my mind tells me Leino but my heart says Sobotka.

 

[sufferer]

Better off calling it the Ville Leino award and giving it to the runner-up.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Honestly Leino was the start of the cursed decade from the Sabres.

 

[Gabrielor]

Player I dislike the most is still Marc Andre Gragnani, but he didn't last long enough for this award.

There's no perfect answer of on ice + off ice + cap except Leino.

Few names with a combination of these, but not all, are:

Moulson, Bogosian, Okposo, Skinner, Hodgson

 

[Ehran]

Bogosian

 

[Ness]

I remember some pretty horrifying moments with Andre Benoit and Mezsaros on the team.

 

[Sabre the Win]

I remember some pretty horrifying moments with Andre Benoit and Mezsaros on the team.

In their defense the team was built to be bad. They were prime tanking years.

 

[debaser66]

Sobotka

 

[HaNotsri]

Can I suggest that there is a minimum games played limit?

I will make sure to list total games played for every nominee.

You shouldn't underestimate those that caused serious mayhem in a short time period.

 

[DJN21]

If there isn't a min game limit then no one can possibly beat the uselessness of Dalton Smith being dressed right? The only nominee to beat that would be when we dressed Sam to sit on the bench and not play at all.

 

[Zman5778]

Player I dislike the most is still Marc Andre Gragnani, but he didn't last long enough for this award.

There's no perfect answer of on ice + off ice + cap except Leino.

Few names with a combination of these, but not all, are:

Moulson, Bogosian, Okposo, Skinner, Hodgson

I just can't lump Hodgson in there. His career was actually looking up until that stupid condition (malignant hyperthermia) did him in.

 

[slip]

Leino cost us some UFA money. Skinner cost us cap space for the next decade. Tage cost us ROR.

But Bogosian is still the worst.

 

[Zman5778]

Leino cost us some UFA money. Skinner cost us cap space for the next decade. Tage cost us ROR.

But Bogosian is still the worst.

Bogo at least had stretches where he looked like the player he was supposed to be.

Leino was basically useless right from day 1.

 

[slip]

Bogo at least had stretches where he looked like the player he was supposed to be.

Leino was basically useless right from day 1.

Bogo was a beast for the first 20 games after we acquired him. He was complete waste of roster space for the next five seasons.

In terms of total cost (salary/assets given up in trade), disappointing seasons played, and overall frustration level, it's hands down Bogosian for me.

 

[Fezzy126]

If there isn't a min game limit then no one can possibly beat the uselessness of Dalton Smith being dressed right? The only nominee to beat that would be when we dressed Sam to sit on the bench and not play at all.

Thinking of guys that barely played, I have an unhealthy level of disdain for Cal O'Reilly

 

[FormerSabresFan]

Gotta be either Leino or Bogo for sure...honorable mention to Skinner who's getting closer to Leino status every day and has so much left on his contract... ugh!