Discussion in 'Polls - (hockey-related only)' started by ViktorBaeArvidsson, Sep 23, 2018.
here u go my lovely’s
Horcoff..... at no point did anyone except Kevin Lowe think he was worth 5l5 million... especially coming off consecutive 50 point seasons.
At least Eriksson was coming off a 60 point year & had shown previously he had 70 point potential.
Horcoff signed his contract extension after the season he scored 50 points in 53 games
Eriksson, total blackhole in vancouver.
Horcoff dropped off after is shoulder was blown up. Up to that point he was worth his contract.
Horcoff also seemed like a good guy to have as captain when Hall and Eberle broke into the league. He really took them under his wing. And even after his shoulder gave out on him, he was still a quality defensive player. I'd take a healthy Horcoff at 5.5 on my team any day.
This. He was worth his contract before that shoulder injury. Hell, he got the injury in the All Star game, Horcoff was really, really good. Eriksson was injury prone and not worth his salary production wise before that contract was even signed. Both ended up being overpaid, but only one was overpaid from day one.
3 seasons prior to that contract, Horcoff had a 70 point season. 2 seasons prior he had a bad year and still put up 50 points. The year prior to the contract he had 50 points in 53 games. Nearly a point per game player in 2 of the 3 seasons before the contract. But sure, only Lowe thought he was a 5.5 million dollar player.
That was the only season where he put up 60+ points. 50 points was a "bad year" ? That was pretty much his career average.
Ignoring the 53 points in 50 games in his contract year?
How was it his career average? He had his breakout 70 point season (before which he was a 30 - 40 point middle six centre), then a bad year, then a point per game season ruined by injury. Players don't get contracts based on what happened 5 years prior, and they also don't sign low ball contracts if they were nearly point per game players in 2 of the 3 years before their contract was up.
You really think he would have finished the season above PPG? My point was, he wouldnt of got that contract in free agency.
I would have voted for Horcoff. Think about how low the cap was when that contract was signed. This is a horrible joke that anyone would suggest that his contract was better. He was being paid like a 1st line center and 2 years into that contract he was barely capable of playing like a 3rd line center.
He definitely would’ve players always get more in free agency.
5.5 million would be almost 10% of the cap that year.... you actually think a team would devote that much to him?
Salary cap was less than 57 million the year that contract kicked in. If he were making and extra 200K it would have been 10%. That's like him making 7.7M per year to be a 3rd line center.
The Drury, Gomez and Redden contracts were worse because they ate up a larger % of the cap hit. I think they were all making 6-7M per year. New york went on one helluva crazy shopping spree and it eventually blew up in their face but Slats was somehow able to con Montreal into taking Gomez and Slats was also saved via post lock-out buyouts that didn't count agains the cap.
Erickson v lucic is a better comparison.
There was politics and a lynch mob behind horcoffs contract. Oilers realized they screwed up the Smythe trade
People forget how good Horcoff was. He was overpaid, but at the time he was a very good player. It was only injuries that slowed him down
Eriksson was already declining when he signed his contract. So if I had to chance to make similar deals today, I would sign a player like Horcoff
As people have pointed out, he had 50 points in 53 games the year before the extension...his season was shortened because he got hurt at the All Star game.
Thats great, but its unrealistic to assume he would have continued scoring at that pace. He was a career 50 point scorer aside from that one season where he managed 70. Its a little nuts to think he would have finished above PPG that year.
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