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A tough day for some of Sweden's top players to have their worst games of the tournament.
USA was the most talented team coming in and ended up with gold. Hat tip to them.
USA was the most talented team coming in and ended up with gold. Hat tip to them.
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Well deserved. He was far and away his team's best offensive player, and only really consistent threat to score.
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Some times you come away from this tournament with comps of a prospect who your team could have chosen and you evaluate them in comparison
Obviously ASP was that guy in this instance among right shot defense
Didn’t do much for me in this tournament at all to be honest
Obviously ASP was that guy in this instance among right shot defense
Didn’t do much for me in this tournament at all to be honest
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Its not true if you are tomahawki g above your head, but is true if you are shooting a puck.
Ya he was defending the US player swinging at a puck mid air, but then said the Swedish player had to be penalized later because he did the same thing but missed the puck. Embarrassing thing to rant about on tv.
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I thought he looked really bad except on the PP. He also didn’t have the most points for a Swedish defenseman, that would be Lindstein.
It’s also perplexing that he was named best defender but didn’t make the tourney all star team (Lindstein did).
It’s also perplexing that he was named best defender but didn’t make the tourney all star team (Lindstein did).
From what I can tell, the Direcorate Awards is the director of the IIHF selects the best forward, goalie, and defenceman. Whoever that is also selected Rutger McGroarty as the best forward. Media chooses the All-Star team. No idea how the MVP is selected.
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Anyone see the clip of Lekkerimaki and Gauthier in the handshake line?
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There’s another clip of this on a different angle I found on Twitter earlier but basically Lekkerimaki didn’t shake Gauthier’s hand and Gauthier responded with “okay….” (from reading his lips) which then led Lekkerimaki to come back and exchange whatever it is that he said.
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Yes, I saw that after reading more closely. Still. Means IIHF is worse then media, which is already a pretty low bar.
Being the World Juniors MVP adds Lekkerimaki to a pretty good list:
Godla, Puljujarvi and Poehling looking like the busts, with latter two still actually being NHL players.
Probably just a statistical anomaly, but the three busts are within the last ten years.
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Godla, Puljujarvi and Poehling looking like the busts, with latter two still actually being NHL players.
Probably just a statistical anomaly, but the three busts are within the last ten years.
First ep2 and now lekker in the handshake line.. our guys have some fight in them
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final thoughts on the tourney:
USA was full value for the Gold. Game really could have gone either way. Havelid making a mistake on Howard's 2nd was devastating and too much of a hole to dig out of especially considering the Swedes 2nd line of Ohgren Bystedt Pettersson was non existent. And not just the final.
Sweden came out hard and easily could have had the Americans in a hole but Augustine was excellent they didnt get a bounce and the US are deep extremely quick and can punish you with the slightest of mistakes and did. Havelid just couldn't get the key timed saves needed. That's the way it goes in a single game wins all.
Was nice to see that both teams attacked and didnt just take a safe wait for a mistake or bounce moment and went out to capture gold.
Tremendous tournament and congrats to the medallists and the city of Gothenberg for an electric fun boisterous crowd. Even the relegation game teams were pesky and flashed speed and skill
Even though they came away 1 game short you have to give Sweden credit. A mountain of pressure on home soil and with so many disappointing past results. Keenly evident in the quarter final against Switzerland where they almost froze in fear after the Swiss made it so close. Watched all their games they played hard and were solid especially the D.
Czechia getting the bronze was a big accomplishment. OT vs US beat Canada beat Finland. Well done.
Canada was a weird one. Lacked some top end talent. Mediocre D and GK. Thought the roster usage was poor. We were ripe for the picking.
USA was full value for the Gold. Game really could have gone either way. Havelid making a mistake on Howard's 2nd was devastating and too much of a hole to dig out of especially considering the Swedes 2nd line of Ohgren Bystedt Pettersson was non existent. And not just the final.
Sweden came out hard and easily could have had the Americans in a hole but Augustine was excellent they didnt get a bounce and the US are deep extremely quick and can punish you with the slightest of mistakes and did. Havelid just couldn't get the key timed saves needed. That's the way it goes in a single game wins all.
Was nice to see that both teams attacked and didnt just take a safe wait for a mistake or bounce moment and went out to capture gold.
Tremendous tournament and congrats to the medallists and the city of Gothenberg for an electric fun boisterous crowd. Even the relegation game teams were pesky and flashed speed and skill
Even though they came away 1 game short you have to give Sweden credit. A mountain of pressure on home soil and with so many disappointing past results. Keenly evident in the quarter final against Switzerland where they almost froze in fear after the Swiss made it so close. Watched all their games they played hard and were solid especially the D.
Czechia getting the bronze was a big accomplishment. OT vs US beat Canada beat Finland. Well done.
Canada was a weird one. Lacked some top end talent. Mediocre D and GK. Thought the roster usage was poor. We were ripe for the picking.
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Gotta say the performances were great for the prospects, but the number one thing Im impressed with is the compete. Lekkerimaki's biggest bust factor for me was if he were to be a slow unengaged glider goalscorer. What he's shown this year is far apart from that. EP2 isnt going to be the dynamo we want but he's a load on the back end and brings an element to his game we need. Willander was just suffocating, he got burned a couple times but aside from that he was always in the right place, was always able to get a stick in or break up the play somehow and then immediately the puck is out of the zone and headed in the right direction. He's got the profile of a very unique elite shutdown defender
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Some of the standout players
Jiri Kulich once again flashed his dominant sniper abilities being the top scorer. Liked Michael Nygard from Norway too bad he got relegated would have been nice to see him next year. Could go 1st round this year which is big for Norway if so.
Celebrini is a special player too bad he didnt get to play bigger games. Lamoureux stood out in a good way. Rodwin Dionicio from Switzerland coud be a massive steal for ANA if they can round out his game. From US Rutger McGroarty is a swiss army knife who just oozes leadership and the Perreault Smith Leonard trio is always fun to watch and got better and better
From Sweden...a few players who left a lot to be desired. Ohgren had a terrible showing and the 2nd line was non existent as O.Pettersson was worse which ended up neutering Bystedt who's not enough of a creator to carry a line. 4th line was spotted for checking and Havelid the D was an adventure defensively, Havelid the GK was mostly very good but picked a bad time to not step up and let in a backbreaker. Odd they didnt try to swap a couple wingers to get that 2nd line going and Ohgren whos had prior success with Ostlund and Lekkerimaki. ASP was neither that great or bad. For a 18yr old thought he held his own and is a weapon on the PP. Should be huge for them next year. Certainly dont agree he was the best D. Was just ok in his end of the ice
On the positive side Ostlund was absolutely flying in the final and his superior skating and puck skills were fun to watch all tourney. Will need to work on his shot and faceoffs for the NHL but his other skills are top6 NHL ready as long as he gets stronger and challenges the inside of the ice. Unger Sorum is an incredibly smart and talented player. Looks like a steal for CAR. Skating needs some quickness added but really stood out with his smarts and skill combo...good size and reach also. Theo Lindstein was excellent, smooth steady thinks a step ahead can walk the line and a really good first pass. Otto Stenberg is just simply a gamer. Finds a way to be factor should be the captain next year in how he competes and gets it done. Was everything im sure Sweden was hoping from Ohgren. STL is unreal in the mid to late 1st rounds of the draft at finding gems.
Pettersson is a beast love his physicality 1v1 and protecting the net. His game should be better on a smaller rink. Was excellent on the PK. makes a fair amount of miscues with the puck which he'll have to clean up as he doesn't provide offense. Skating positioning and engagement are plus traits. Was an important steadying influence for Havelid who made his life tougher in zone.
Willander is pretty much an eraser. Has a lot of Tanev in him. Noticeable ability to snuff out players along the walls and even in open ice. Already is a superior physical specimen at 18. Was fun watching him dominate Gauthier and others 1v1. Hinges supports and moves with his partner really well and first pass is sharp. Offensive zone and in transition needs growth. Has huge potential with steps in that regard.
Lekkerimaki full value for MVP. Watched most the games and he was the most consistently dangerous and productive Thought Ostlund did a lot of the leg work for him at times and was better in the final but JL was slippery, hands were electric, attacked the D was physical and an absolute snipe show. Teams started to key on this duo as much as possible with a trap defensive posture and high dumps so they wouldn't get caught in odd man situations and that was wise. Hard not to be excited by his progression and confidence. Glad he's ours
Jiri Kulich once again flashed his dominant sniper abilities being the top scorer. Liked Michael Nygard from Norway too bad he got relegated would have been nice to see him next year. Could go 1st round this year which is big for Norway if so.
Celebrini is a special player too bad he didnt get to play bigger games. Lamoureux stood out in a good way. Rodwin Dionicio from Switzerland coud be a massive steal for ANA if they can round out his game. From US Rutger McGroarty is a swiss army knife who just oozes leadership and the Perreault Smith Leonard trio is always fun to watch and got better and better
From Sweden...a few players who left a lot to be desired. Ohgren had a terrible showing and the 2nd line was non existent as O.Pettersson was worse which ended up neutering Bystedt who's not enough of a creator to carry a line. 4th line was spotted for checking and Havelid the D was an adventure defensively, Havelid the GK was mostly very good but picked a bad time to not step up and let in a backbreaker. Odd they didnt try to swap a couple wingers to get that 2nd line going and Ohgren whos had prior success with Ostlund and Lekkerimaki. ASP was neither that great or bad. For a 18yr old thought he held his own and is a weapon on the PP. Should be huge for them next year. Certainly dont agree he was the best D. Was just ok in his end of the ice
On the positive side Ostlund was absolutely flying in the final and his superior skating and puck skills were fun to watch all tourney. Will need to work on his shot and faceoffs for the NHL but his other skills are top6 NHL ready as long as he gets stronger and challenges the inside of the ice. Unger Sorum is an incredibly smart and talented player. Looks like a steal for CAR. Skating needs some quickness added but really stood out with his smarts and skill combo...good size and reach also. Theo Lindstein was excellent, smooth steady thinks a step ahead can walk the line and a really good first pass. Otto Stenberg is just simply a gamer. Finds a way to be factor should be the captain next year in how he competes and gets it done. Was everything im sure Sweden was hoping from Ohgren. STL is unreal in the mid to late 1st rounds of the draft at finding gems.
Pettersson is a beast love his physicality 1v1 and protecting the net. His game should be better on a smaller rink. Was excellent on the PK. makes a fair amount of miscues with the puck which he'll have to clean up as he doesn't provide offense. Skating positioning and engagement are plus traits. Was an important steadying influence for Havelid who made his life tougher in zone.
Willander is pretty much an eraser. Has a lot of Tanev in him. Noticeable ability to snuff out players along the walls and even in open ice. Already is a superior physical specimen at 18. Was fun watching him dominate Gauthier and others 1v1. Hinges supports and moves with his partner really well and first pass is sharp. Offensive zone and in transition needs growth. Has huge potential with steps in that regard.
Lekkerimaki full value for MVP. Watched most the games and he was the most consistently dangerous and productive Thought Ostlund did a lot of the leg work for him at times and was better in the final but JL was slippery, hands were electric, attacked the D was physical and an absolute snipe show. Teams started to key on this duo as much as possible with a trap defensive posture and high dumps so they wouldn't get caught in odd man situations and that was wise. Hard not to be excited by his progression and confidence. Glad he's ours
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