Winnipeg Jets Top 20 Prospects 2017 - #6

[Hank Chinaski]

1. Kyle Connor, LW

94.0% of vote


2. Jack Roslovic, C/RW

93.4% of vote


3. Kristian Vesalainen, LW/RW

66.5% of vote


4. Sami Niku, D

32.9% of vote


5. Tucker Poolman, D

33.3% of vote

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[CorgisPer60]

Starved we are for d prospects that we put a 24 year old D with a relative safe floor over a prospect with a very high offensive ceiling.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Starved we are for d prospects that we put a 24 year old D with a relative safe floor over a prospect with a very high offensive ceiling.

Which prospect is that? Spacek?

 

[CorgisPer60]

Which prospect is that? Spacek?

Yes. I may have been a bit hyperbolic, but I believe he has what it takes to be a good middle six player in the NHL.

 

[Maukkis]

Spacek it is.

 

[mazmin]

Spacek is being slightly overrated. Harkins is the better player. Voted Stanley because, although he's not close to the NHL, he's the best Jets prospect remaining.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Between Samberg and Harkins. Went with Harkins because just too little is known about Samberg.

 

[garret9]

Between Samberg and Harkins. Went with Harkins because just too little is known about Samberg.

Less being known is what in part makes his ceiling so high.

Less being known changes the kurtosis of the possibility curve, and expands out. It doesn't shift the possibility curve.

 

[surixon]

Tough choice but went with Harkins.

 

[truck]

Sticking with Samberg. He's got impact player potential.

Best case for Spacek and Harkins is probably 3C.

Kosmachuk 1.49 ppg
Lipon 1.46 ppg
Spacek 1.44 ppg
Lemieux 1.38 ppg
De Leo 1.25 ppg
Lowry 1.22 ppg
Genarro 1.16 ppg
Harkins 1.13 ppg

 

[Swiftt]

Voted Harkins.

Add Nogier

 

[portamoral]

Less being known is what in part makes his ceiling so high.

Less being known changes the kurtosis of the possibility curve, and expands out. It doesn't shift the possibility curve.

u wot m8

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Less being known is what in part makes his ceiling so high.

Less being known changes the kurtosis of the possibility curve, and expands out. It doesn't shift the possibility curve.

I know. His ceiling right now is Bobby Orr. His floor is Joe Bftsplk. What's his probability? That's unknown too though maybe within a narrower range. I'm going to say it is Chiarot.

 

[Whileee]

Samberg again, for me.

 

[puck stoppa]

No harkins for me
Comrie

 

[Daximus]

I'd vote Comrie but it's a wasted vote at this point. Between Spacek and Harkins. I see a much higher offensive ceiling in Spacek. Harkins likely bottom 6 ceiling at best. Went with Spacek, hes the better offensive player and the only one with what I think could be top 9 potential between the two.

 

[Romang67]

Harkins, Samberg, then either Spacek or Kovacevic. For me.

 

[puck stoppa]

I'd vote Comrie but it's a wasted vote at this point. Between Spacek and Harkins. I see a much higher offensive ceiling in Spacek. Harkins likely bottom 6 ceiling at best. Went with Spacek, hes the better offensive player and the only one with what I think could be top 9 potential between the two.

Good point, I know Comrie won't get in for at least three more. I would be voting Spacek next, he's a dandy and his potential is intriguing.

 

[CaptainChef]

Starved we are for d prospects that we put a 24 year old D with a relative safe floor over a prospect with a very high offensive ceiling.

Thats my thoughts too. I think Spaceks potential out-trumps either Niku or Poolman but given we need D-men so bad, I hope I'm wrong

 

[kxx]

Went with Spacek. IIRC he did pretty good at the WJC this year? Can't remember what tournament it was but that was encouraging, plus his season in the WHL.

gotta say am excited Samberg is getting so much attention though - never heard of until we drafted him.

 

[Romang67]

Thats my thoughts too. I think Spaceks potential far out-trumps either Niku or Poolman but given we need D-men so bad, I hope I'm wrong

I don't know about Niku. He was REALLY good in the Liiga this past season, and has progressed admirably since his draft. His scoring compared to his peers was on Enström level (the year before he joined the Thrashers) this past season, and Niku is quite a bit younger than Toby was then.

I'm not entirely sure how we got him in the 7th round, but Niku has progressed like an early round pick since he was drafted. If he can make the jump to NA ice, he's gonna be a player.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Thats my thoughts too. I think Spaceks potential far out-trumps either Niku or Poolman but given we need D-men so bad, I hope I'm wrong

So it is about nothing but ceilings?

Spacek might have about a 20-30% chance of becoming an NHL regular. Poolman is more like 60-80%. There may be very little chance that he rises above 3rd pair but there is very good chance that he makes it that far. (all probabilities based on careful analysis of the quantum of their skating mechanics )

It isn't like Spacek has 1st line ceiling and his 2nd line potential probably isn't any higher than Poolman's 2nd pair probability. So ceilings aren't actually much different although Spacek on the 3rd line probably scores about double what Poolman scores on the 3rd pair.

 

[RustyCat]

Add Berdin

 

[CaptainChef]

So it is about nothing but ceilings?

Spacek might have about a 20-30% chance of becoming an NHL regular. Poolman is more like 60-80%. There may be very little chance that he rises above 3rd pair but there is very good chance that he makes it that far. (all probabilities based on careful analysis of the quantum of their skating mechanics )

It isn't like Spacek has 1st line ceiling and his 2nd line potential probably isn't any higher than Poolman's 2nd pair probability. So ceilings aren't actually much different although Spacek on the 3rd line probably scores about double what Poolman scores on the 3rd pair.

I don't know what to think about Poolman thats the problem. Yes Spacek has the higher ceiling but when it comes to the Jets at least, Poolman's chances of making it to the NHL are infinitely better. But is he going to be any good or just another Redmond, Postma, Chariot type? I'm guessing he has a ceiling a lot higher than that, but in reality are we all just hoping he has more potential or has he shown enough in the NCAA to expect more than that out of him?

 

[Deif]

Harkins sitting at 0.7 PPG after 10 AHL games. Hopefully, it's an indicator of success to come.