Prospect Info: Winnipeg Jets Prospects 2017-18

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  1. Romang67

    Romang67 BitterSwede

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    Old thread was at limit.

    Skaters:

    NameBirthdayTeam (League)GPGAPPIM
    Mason Appleton1/15/96Manitoba Moose (AHL)3112193116
    Chase De Leo10/25/95Manitoba Moose (AHL)316121810
    Erik Foley6/30/97Providence College (NCAA)1711132410
    CJ Suess3/17/94Minnesota State (NCAA)198152331
    Jansen Harkins5/23/97Manitoba Moose (AHL)2526811
    Brendan Lemieux3/15/96Manitoba Moose (AHL)209112042
    LC Lipon7/10/93Manitoba Moose (AHL)31891743
    Jimmy Lodge3/5/95Jacksonville Icemen (ECHL)277172423
    Skyler McKenzie1/20/98Portland Winterhawks (WHL)3524204431
    Nic Petan3/22/95Manitoba Moose (AHL)24618244
    Buddy Robinson9/30/91Manitoba Moose (AHL)3112152716
    Jack Roslovic1/29/97Manitoba Moose (AHL)311520358
    Michael Sgarbossa7/25/92Manitoba Moose (AHL)3110152549
    Michael Spacek4/9/97Manitoba Moose (AHL)2547118
    Jordy Stallard9/18/97Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)3625214620
    Kristian Vesalainen6/1/99HPK (Liiga)26811192
    Santeri Virtanen5/11/99Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL)142572
    Jacob Cederholm1/30/98IK Oskarshamn (Allsvenskan)140118
    Croix Evingson8/28/97UMass Lowell (NCAA)101346
    Leon Gawanke5/31/99Cape Breton Screaming Eagles (QMJHL)302161822
    Luke Green1/12/98Sherbrooke Phoenix (QMJHL)-----
    Jan Kostalek2/17/95Manitoba Moose (AHL)100002
    Johnathan Kovacevik7/12/97Merrimack College (NCAA)1819104
    Julian Melchiori12/6/91Manitoba Moose (AHL)26481211
    Sami Niku10/10/96Manitoba Moose (AHL)31416206
    Nelson Nogier5/27/96Manitoba Moose (AHL)-----
    Dylan Samberg1/24/99University of Minnesota-Duluth (NCAA)1904431
    Cameron Schilling10/7/88Manitoba Moose (AHL)314172119
    Logan Stanley5/26/98Kitchener Rangers (OHL)338192760


    Goalies

    NameBirthdayTeam (League)Sv%GAAGP
    Mikhail Berdin3/1/98Sioux Falls Stampede (USHL).9302.6318
    Eric Comrie7/6/95Manitoba Moose (AHL).9252.3514
    Arvid Holm11/3/98Karlkrona HK J20 (SuperElit).8813.6923
    Jamie Phillips3/24/93Jacksonville Icemen (ECHL).8953.3812

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  2. nopurposeflour

    nopurposeflour Registered User

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    Wasn't answered on the last thread, but how is Luke Green looking?
     
  3. YWGinYYZ

    YWGinYYZ RIP Fugu

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    Nice work on the tables, Romang!
     
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    From what Ive seen: He's a fantastic skater who's edge work is darn good. He moves the puck very well and plays with his head up. Puck retrieval is good because he can rely on his effortless skating and I think he's got nice hands and a decent shot. He needs to work on his game in his own zone, physicality along the wall and needs to be stronger on his stick in front of his own net. He's got to take a big step forward next year IMO, as right now he's got a way to go before being considered for the NHL but he still has time and will likely try to get more polished in the AHL for a few years. We will see how his game translates to the pros. No rush with him though, so he can take 3-4 years to develop.
     
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    Tables suck! Romang, you ever use Excel before ;)
     
  6. Romang67

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    It'll be a lot nicer to update those table when the season starts and everyone's stats will be at 0.:laugh:
     
  7. JetsFan815

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    I was hoping for invites for Green's former teammate Thomas Gregoire and Adam Thilander.
     
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    I'd agree with the above assessment. I think his skating is so strong that with some improvement in his gap and his dzone coverage he can absolutely be an NHL caliber defenseman.

    I think the real question with Green is whether his offensive game will develop. As was mentioned, he has a decent shot and his skating allows him to rush the puck well but he really didn't put up the numbers in his D+1 season that I think a lot of us expected and hoped for.

    Whether or not that offensive side of his game comes out a bit more (like it did in his draft season) could be the difference in capping his potential as a top 2 or 3 defenseman or as a a 4/5 defenseman. Worst case scenario is probably a career top 4 AHL guy as his skating alone should keep him there.

    I'm really excited to see how he progresses with the Moose this year.
     
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    Green has another year of junior to complete first.
     
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    Your last sentence about progression with Moose this year. Is a bit off as his age and the C.H.L agreement limits him to playing another season in the Q.

    Otherwise a wait and see kinda of prospect.
     
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    Ahh you are correct. Jumping to the Moose at the same time as Harkins near the end of the year had me thinking he was a late 97 birthday.
     
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    Nah, that was the result of both of their junior seasons being done at the same time, so they could both join up with the Moose at the end of last season.
     
  13. Whileee

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    Fun facts:

    D+1 Season, Even-strength points/game...

    Green 0.300
    Nogier 0.243
     
  14. garret9

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    Ya but his "PCS" (lack of no better name for my version of the model... maybe we can make one here):
    D+0: 16%
    D+1: 10%

    His second season was definitely more disappointing, scoring wise. His EV P/GP dropped.

    Compare Stanley:
    D+0: 6%
    D+1: 8%
     
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    My point was that I think that we need to be circumspect about Green until we see more evidence about his trajectory. He's a marvelous skater, but Nogier also has very good wheels.
     
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    Whileee your taking this Green thing a bit too far. He had more points in each of his first three seasons than Nogier had in his first three years combined.

    D-1 to d+1
    Green:
    108 points in 181 games for a .6 ppg

    Nogier:
    29 points in 166 games for a .17 ppg

    There is really no comparison in terms of productivity.
     
  17. JetsFan815

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    Are you trying to say that the Jets are on track to have the 18th and 36th overall picks turn into nothing?

    Should've just stood pat (like most of us wanted) and drafted Rubtsov and Girard. We'd still have one of the best prospect pools if we had done that
     
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    My point was about Green's mediocre d+1 season, using Nogier as the standard of mediocrity. Green hasn't really shown any growth in productivity over the past 3 seasons. I am hoping for a big season in his D+2 year.
     
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    IIRC, Green's stagnant productivity was partly a function of his usage in the Sea Dogs org, and one of the reasons he forced a trade. I agree that he's due for a bounce-back year. I really don't think he's Nogier, the Sequel -- more like Josh Morrissey, the straight-to-cable version.
     
  20. Daximus

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    There really is no comparison with him and Nogier. Like none to be honest. Nogier was by far and away a much worse player.

    Green's productivity improved when he left the Sea Dogs. He was being buried there on a very deep team in Saint John that just couldn't give him the playing time he needed to improve. As soon as he left his production improved from 0.55 PPG to 0.67 PPG. I'm willing to bet that we see a marked improvement from Green next season now that he will be getting PP1 time in Sherbrooke for a full season, as well as top pairing minutes.
     
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    Garret's Projected Success Percentage (GPSP).
     
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    I think that would be best when projecting young players.

    Black Hohls & Beauty Finds

    Your welcome :popcorn:
     
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    Maybe Green peaked at 14?
     
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    Should be the 'Luck and Intangibles Certain-tizer'.
     
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    Very nice work, indeed! A small request, though, if possible - could another column be added that shows their latest JetsHFBoards prospect ranking?
     
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