Proposal: Winnipeg - Colorado

[Ramland 07]

I was thinkin something along the lines of Roslovic for Jost straight up. Roslovic is rumored to want out of Winnipeg and could use a change of scenary. Not sure what Jost's trade value is but I'd imagined their similar. Thoughts???

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[Snowman]

I was thinkin something along the lines of Roslovic for Jost straight up. Roslovic is rumored to want out of Winnipeg and could use a change of scenary. Not sure what Jost's trade value is but I'd imagined their similar. Thoughts???

No thanks from Winnipeg.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Jost is 15 months younger and has outperformed Roslovic to this point in their careers. There's almost no reason for the Avs to trade the better, younger player to a division rival.

 

[Ramland 07]

Jost is 15 months younger and has outperformed Roslovic to this point in their careers. There's almost no reason for the Avs to trade the better, younger player to a division rival.

Jost had 26 points in 70 games while Rosolvic had 14 points in 31 games while playing 9 minutes a game. Wouldn't say jost has outperformed him as jost has been playing in Colorado's top 9 for the majority of his career.

 

[Ncit3]

Jost had 26 points in 70 games while Rosolvic had 14 points in 31 games while playing 9 minutes a game. Wouldn't say jost has outperformed him as jost has been playing in Colorado's top 9 for the majority of his career.

Jost only recently has been in the top 9. He played a lot of last season on the 4th line.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

I don't think the Avs would do this as they seem to still have a lot of faith in Jost. I think Roslovic is the better player, so this Avs fan would do it. I've seen both players quite a bit since Roslovic played at Miami. The value is pretty close either way.

 

[Ramland 07]

Jost only recently has been in the top 9. He played a lot of last season on the 4th line.

Didnt he play in the top 9 most of his rookie season. I could be wrong.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

Jost had 26 points in 70 games while Rosolvic had 14 points in 31 games while playing 9 minutes a game. Wouldn't say jost has outperformed him as jost has been playing in Colorado's top 9 for the majority of his career.

Last year Roslovic had 24 points in 77 games. The TOI was far less for Roslovic last year, so you're right about that.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Jost is 15 months younger and has outperformed Roslovic to this point in their careers. There's almost no reason for the Avs to trade the better, younger player to a division rival.

He has?

Roslovic:
AHL 83 points in 97 games
NHL 38 points in 108 games

Jost:
AHL 7 points in 13 games
NHL 48 points in 135 games

Pretty close, not sure what kind of ice time Jost was getting but most of Roslovics would be 3rd/4th line with one small stretch in top 6. Neither are great possession players but a slight edge to Roslovic in that category as well. Pretty hard to see how Jost is definitively better.

Anyway, fair enough if you want to stick with your guy but they are very equal players at this point in their careers.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Jost had 26 points in 70 games while Rosolvic had 14 points in 31 games while playing 9 minutes a game. Wouldn't say jost has outperformed him as jost has been playing in Colorado's top 9 for the majority of his career.

I think you're confusing different years. Roslovic played 77 games this season and had 24 points. Jost outscored him while playing fewer games. Yes, Jost got about 3 minutes more per game, but Roslovic getting less than 10 minutes per game is more of a red flag than a way to pump up his value.

 

[Spilot23]

Jost looked great in the playoffs no reason to give him up already.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

I think you're confusing different years. Roslovic played 77 games this season and had 24 points. Jost outscored him while playing fewer games. Yes, Jost got about 3 minutes more per game, but Roslovic getting less than 10 minutes per game is more of a red flag than a way to pump up his value.

Not really, our forward group was a lot deeper than yours ever has been (no offense, you guys have great top end but depth wise not close. Jost would have been playing in the same spot Roslo was).

 

[Ramland 07]

Last year Roslovic had 24 points in 77 games. The TOI was far less for Roslovic last year, so you're right about that.

I quoted the wrong year ‍

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

He has?

Roslovic:
AHL 83 points in 97 games
NHL 38 points in 108 games

Jost:
AHL 7 points in 13 games
NHL 48 points in 135 games

Pretty close, not sure what kind of ice time Jost was getting but most of Roslovics would be 3rd/4th line with one small stretch in top 6. Neither are great possession players but a slight edge to Roslovic in that category as well. Pretty hard to see how Jost is definitively better.

Anyway, fair enough if you want to stick with your guy but they are very equal players at this point in their careers.

Is 38 > 48 in your part of the world? Or do you want your guy to get extra credit because he was still in the AHL last year when Jost was in the NHL, despite being 15 months younger?

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

Is 38 > 48 in your part of the world? Or do you want your guy to get extra credit because he was still in the AHL last year when Jost was in the NHL, despite being 15 months younger?

Ahhh, okay. We're just going to ignore all context then. No point in arguing with someone like that.

Cheers.

 

[bukwas]

Jost looked great in the playoffs no reason to give him up already.

Yes, he was a pleasant surprise in the playoffs.

 

[nightonthesun]

Gotta wait til we see if Playoffs Jost is here to stay before we toss him out for another question mark.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Ahhh, okay. We're just going to ignore all context then. No point in arguing with someone like that.

Cheers.

What context exactly do you think makes Roslovic deserve extra credit over what he actually did in the NHL? Is it that he was the only Jets player last year to appear in more than 40 games and average less than 10 minute per game? Or is it the only earning 31 NHL games last year, when he was older than Jost is now?

 

[Avaholic29]

Point totals don't speak much for two struggling guys. Jost is much better off the puck and his offense is going to come. Much better for our system and close with all the other guys. Culture is just as important in a franchise and roslovic doesn't fit. Jost > roslovic in terms of upside aswell.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

What context exactly do you think makes Roslovic deserve extra credit over what he actually did in the NHL? Is it that he was the only Jets player last year to appear in more than 40 games and average less than 10 minute per game? Or is it the only earning 31 NHL games last year, when he was older than Jost is now?

Jost would prob be in the AHL still if he was a Jets player tbh.

 

[Ramland 07]

What context exactly do you think makes Roslovic deserve extra credit over what he actually did in the NHL? Is it that he was the only Jets player last year to appear in more than 40 games and average less than 10 minute per game? Or is it the only earning 31 NHL games last year, when he was older than Jost is now?

Is Roslovic supposed to beat out laine scheifele ehlers connor wheeler and little? It's a lot harder to get playing time in Winnipeg than in Colorado? I think if Rosolvic had more chances for playing time it wouldn't be a totally different story.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Jost would prob be in the AHL still if he was a Jets player tbh.

So, all you have is unprovable hypothetical "context"? I was really hoping you had something more tangible and real.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Is Roslovic supposed to beat out laine scheifele ehlers connor wheeler and little? It's a lot harder to get playing time in Winnipeg than in Colorado? I think if Rosolvic had more chances for playing time it wouldn't be a totally different story.

I'd at least think that such a promising youngster could at least beat out Tanev or Copp or Perrault or Lowry for ES ice time. Either he's being heavily sheltered for some reason, or he's just not good enough. Which one is it?

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

So, all you have is unprovable hypothetical "context"? I was really hoping you had something more tangible and real.

You’re clearly not interested in an intellectual debate but you can go respond to Ramland 07 up there if you want to prove something.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

You’re clearly not interested in an intellectual debate but you can go respond to Ramland 07 up there if you want to prove something.

And you're clearly unable to provide any of the context you claim makes Roslovic equivalent to Jost. But, sure, blame me if that makes you feel better.