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Alex Galchenyuk is healthy and expects to play on Wednesday
Alex Galchenyuk is healthy and expects to play on Wednesday
Pre-Game Talk: Wings at Canadiens, Wednesday
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But at the same time you want to get him going too.
The sole purpose of acquiring him was to have a 2nd line center that could produce so that 13 and 40 could be reunited OR allow for more flexibility between top 6 wingers.
Weiss is not Datsyuk or Zetterberg... He just doesn't have the flashiness or star talent to make a big contribution with little ice time or bottom 6 players. The best thing they can do is put him with some good talent for a while, and if he fails drop him down in the lineup.
You can argue that he isn't a real top 6 center if he can't play with bottom 6 wingers, but that's another topic. All I know is, we're stuck with him for a while and paying him damn good money. At least give him the best CHANCE to succeed. I'm not saying we need to make him the next Cleary part 2 and spoon-feed him undeservingly.
But at the same time you have to understand that there's a time and a place. Experimenting with him in a big role when you're coming down the closing stretch and every single point counts is a big deal. His contract has no effect on whether or not he should get an opportunity to prove his worth. Not in this situation. Winning means more. If he shows he can play and contribute then great. But just throwing him above players that have shown much more this season is a huge risk and missing the playoffs could be the downfall.
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Actually Franzen was playing pretty well before his concussion occured. Hopefully he can pick it up again and the same with Weiss we need both of them to step up and be leaders we all know that Datsyuk will be fine.
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I'm so ready for NHL hockey. Olympics were nice but it made me realize that the NHL is really where it's at.
Let's see:
Franzen-Datsyuk-Nyquist
Abdelkader-Helm-Alfredsson
Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar
Miller-Weiss-Glendening
Let's see:
Franzen-Datsyuk-Nyquist
Abdelkader-Helm-Alfredsson
Jurco-Sheahan-Tatar
Miller-Weiss-Glendening
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You have to at this point with Z gone for an extended period of time. Its about time Weiss steps up and shows something to the coaching staff. Weiss is definitely not tradable at this point given his lack of performance and injuries, so Babs better find a way to make him most productive. They are forced to throw him into top six given their circumstances...Im okay with Weiss playing over Sheahan and Helm has shown hes more effective in bottom 6...Conclusion Weiss has to play top 6 min as the other options make the team weaker. Weiss I think will blossom bc of the extended role to play more minutes, minutes the Wings are paying him for
if Weiss is back I would like to see something like this with three scoring lines, and one checking line. Glendening sent down
Weiss Dats Alfie
Jurco Sheahan Tatar
Franzen Helm Nyquist
Miller Andersson Gator
or with Jurco sent down:
Weiss Dats Alfie
Nyquist Sheahan Tatar
Franzen Helm Gator
Miller Andersson Glendening
Gives Weiss some playing time to get into a rhythm without putting too much pressure on him.
Weiss Dats Alfie
Jurco Sheahan Tatar
Franzen Helm Nyquist
Miller Andersson Gator
or with Jurco sent down:
Weiss Dats Alfie
Nyquist Sheahan Tatar
Franzen Helm Gator
Miller Andersson Glendening
Gives Weiss some playing time to get into a rhythm without putting too much pressure on him.
Why exactly does Weiss have to play? If he doesn't make the team better then he shouldn't play, regardless of role. With Z on LTIR Detroit has no cap issues. Their only issue is winning and who to send down or waive to comply with roster #s.
I don't like the argument "makes the bottom 6 better" if it means making the top 6 worse. And once again, Weiss hasn't been an effective top 6 player in over 2 seasons (and 2 surgeries ago.) Statistically speaking he's played the last 2 seasons at a Dan Cleary level more so than a 2nd line center level.
At the end of the day he's going to get a chance to play at earn his role. My point being he should have to earn it. Giving him a role just for the sake of giving it to him and potentially making the team worse because of it seems like a boneheaded move for a team clinging onto a playoff spot right now.
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Doesn't sound like he will play but Sproul is up right now for practice and might accompany the team as the 7th D-man.
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/02/red_wings_stephen_weiss_and_ja.html#incart_river
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2014/02/red_wings_stephen_weiss_and_ja.html#incart_river
With Alfie and Nyquist getting the day off tomorrow it's going to be difficult to attempt to decipher the line combos.
Going to he a lot of heads rolling when they see Cleary-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi lol
Going to he a lot of heads rolling when they see Cleary-Datsyuk-Bertuzzi lol
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Zetterberg is the captain, no one else will wear the C. Datsyuk, Alfredsson, and Kronwall will wear the A's.(If any of them get hurt, it'll be Franzen next.) My biggest concern, next to the fact that we have lost our best player, is how this will effect Nyquist who's really benefited playing with Hank.
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Datsyuk said he hopes to play tomorrow but didn't sound like it's a sure thing. Said the pain in knee is same as before.
Datsyuk said he hopes to play tomorrow but didn't sound like it's a sure thing. Said the pain in knee is same as before.
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Kindl said he's not expecting to play next 2 games. Right knee still weaker than left. Needs more practice time.
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Weiss said he's not ready to play next two games. Needs more practice time. Will skate with Wings instead of playing in GR for now.
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Babcock said Franzen has been cleared but he hasn't decided if he'll play tomorrow. Said all lineup decisions will be made tomorrow.
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Sproul said he is going on the trip with Wings, not going back to GR right away. Gives team 7 healthy D with Kindl out.
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Datsyuk and Howard both declined to talk about their Olympic experiences. Babcock talked about his.
Kindl said he's not expecting to play next 2 games. Right knee still weaker than left. Needs more practice time.
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Weiss said he's not ready to play next two games. Needs more practice time. Will skate with Wings instead of playing in GR for now.
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Babcock said Franzen has been cleared but he hasn't decided if he'll play tomorrow. Said all lineup decisions will be made tomorrow.
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Sproul said he is going on the trip with Wings, not going back to GR right away. Gives team 7 healthy D with Kindl out.
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Datsyuk and Howard both declined to talk about their Olympic experiences. Babcock talked about his.
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