Confirmed with Link: Wings acquire Jeff Petry for Gustav Lindstrom and a 2025 4th round pick

[KJoe88]

I wonder if Yzerman is somehow flipping Holl or trading Chiarot…

 

[Pavels Dog]

Oh I meant after this trade.

7D, no need to trade anyone.

 

[redwings8831]

I guess Yzerman just voted for Edvinsson for "most overrated"

comical roster building

May 2nd - Edvinsson shoulder surgery with a 4 to 6 month recovery

It's certainly possible that it could be closer to 6 months (or even more than that) and he misses a decent portion of the season. Plus, you're probably starting him in GR anyway coming off a long recovery.

 

[Retire91]

looks like Yzerman's earlier plan for the D got adjusted by Petry becoming available. I don't know adds some veteran presence. Does this mean Ed is going to do the whole year in GR

 

[DoMakc]

7D, no need to trade anyone.

It's rather expensive to pay more than 2 mil to a 7th defenseman. Lindstrom would do this for less and you keep the pick

 

[norrisnick]

7D, no need to trade anyone.

We've got at least 8 or 9 NHL level D under contract right now.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

I have no idea what is happening, but this is fine.

 

[Ezekial]

I feel the same way about this as I felt at the Maatta signing at the time. Don't really see the point.

But, maybe this isn't shit after all if it turns out the same.

 

[Pavels Dog]

It's rather expensive to pay more than 2 mil to a 7th defenseman. Lindstrom would do this for less and you keep the pick

That money doesn't matter. Like, if Edvinsson, Wallinder and Johansson play like top 4D-men in camp are you sending them down because they're too cheap? Let the best guys play, regardless of cap hit.

 

[Detroit Knights]

It's rather expensive to pay more than 2 mil to a 7th defenseman. Lindstrom would do this for less and you keep the pick

but lindstrom and petry have drastically different skillsets.

I suppose if petry is the 7th d for awhile, I could see his playoff experience being valuable enough to warrant no or little playing time.

Like everyone else, I am not hating the move because it is an obvious upgrade; however, with this many D in the locker room, I would hope for one of them leaving for a pretty good haul. Maybe like maatta or something but I like maatta a lot :/

 

[Ezekial]

May 2nd - Edvinsson shoulder surgery with a 4 to 6 month recovery

It's certainly possible that it could be closer to 6 months (or even more than that) and he misses a decent portion of the season. Plus, you're probably starting him in GR anyway coming off a long recovery.

I guess Yzerman just voted for Edvinsson for "most overrated"

comical roster building

They don't even play the same position on defense.

 

[Shaman464]

Within 10% of the cap ceiling for a team not significantly better than a team just above the floor.

 

[norrisnick]

May 2nd - Edvinsson shoulder surgery with a 4 to 6 month recovery

It's certainly possible that it could be closer to 6 months (or even more than that) and he misses a decent portion of the season. Plus, you're probably starting him in GR anyway coming off a long recovery.

I fully expect Ed to be ready for training camp.

Ed didn't have any kind of shoulder injury. He had a pre-existing condition that can develop into problems so they got together and elected to get it corrected before it becomes an issue. One would hope that time period was factored in when they decided to shut him down. Similar to Larkin the year before though his was an injury he was playing through.

 

[DoMakc]

That money doesn't matter. Like, if Edvinsson, Wallinder and Johansson play like top 4D-men in camp are you sending them down because they're too cheap? Let the best guys play, regardless of cap hit.

Money does matter, as there is salary cap in place. One could argue, money doesn't matter, if Petry only had contract for this year, but he is still on books for the next year. And if Red Wings plan to compete for playoffs next year, i'd rather not waste 2.34 on 7th D (or 8th D). Especially given that Seider, Raymond, Rasmussen and Berggren need new contract.

 

[duul]

Petry at that price becomes a great chip at the deadline if he maintains his level of play. Seems like a move based around acquiring a great deal asset rather than specifically trying to fill a hole for you guys.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

 

[Pavels Dog]

Money does matter, as there is salary cap in place. One could argue, money doesn't matter, if Petry only had contract for this year, but he is still on books for the next year. And if Red Wings plan to compete for playoffs next year, i'd rather not waste 2.34 on 7th D (or 8th D). Especially given that Seider, Raymond, Rasmussen and Berggren need new contract.

We have more than enough money. Again, at some point Edvinsson, Wallinder, Johansson, Kasper etc. are going to enter the lineup. It's almost impossible to set things up so we never have some overpaid guys in the pressbox unless we want to be right at the cap floor.

 

[Ezekial]

Money does matter, as there is salary cap in place. One could argue, money doesn't matter, if Petry only had contract for this year, but he is still on books for the next year. And if Red Wings plan to compete for playoffs next year, i'd rather not waste 2.34 on 7th D (or 8th D). Especially given that Seider, Raymond, Rasmussen and Berggren need new contract.

Money matters when it matters and it won't matter next offseason at all.

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Within 10% of the cap ceiling for a team not significantly better than a team just above the floor.

Wah wah wah.

1) Cap is about to go boom.
2) All but like five contracts the team has don't extend out further than 2 years.

 

[ricky0034]

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Money does matter, as there is salary cap in place. One could argue, money doesn't matter, if Petry only had contract for this year, but he is still on books for the next year. And if Red Wings plan to compete for playoffs next year, i'd rather not waste 2.34 on 7th D (or 8th D). Especially given that Seider, Raymond, Rasmussen and Berggren need new contract.

Berggren's contract is a negative concern level right now. He's either gonna bridge for a reasonable number or they extend him for a steal of a deal. Seider and Raymond's dollars are budgeted. The Wings aren't going to lose either one of them. I'd be floored if they didn't have the fancy version of a cap-friendly layout that has an 8-9M block for Seider long term and something similar for Raymond. Rasmussen needs to keep showing he is the guy he's become. He'll either show he's worth a huge deal and it changes the plans or he gets Perron money next year.

Within 10% of the cap ceiling for a team not significantly better than a team just above the floor.

The Red Wings are in a significantly better place in 2023 than they were in 2022.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

Chiarot, Holl, Walman, Ghost and Petry all have modified no trades.

Only Seider and Maata can be moved easily. Can't see a situation where Seider is moved.

So if something else is on the back burner, Maata appears most likely.

 

[Shaman464]

Wah wah wah.

1) Cap is about to go boom.
2) All but like five contracts the team has don't extend out further than 2 years.

1) If there’s a recession (which very much is still a possibility) the cap could continue to be stagnant.
2) it’s a long term complaint. It’s about paying this much for a team that very likely doesn’t make the playoffs next season. The team is almost exclusively spare parts.

Berggren's contract is a negative concern level right now. He's either gonna bridge for a reasonable number or they extend him for a steal of a deal. Seider and Raymond's dollars are budgeted. The Wings aren't going to lose either one of them. I'd be floored if they didn't have the fancy version of a cap-friendly layout that has an 8-9M block for Seider long term and something similar for Raymond. Rasmussen needs to keep showing he is the guy he's become. He'll either show he's worth a huge deal and it changes the plans or he gets Perron money next year.


The Red Wings are in a significantly better place in 2023 than they were in 2022.

No they aren’t. Going into last seasons with Vrana and Bertuzzi plus the spare parts they picked up last season they were in a very similar spot. And we saw how easily it went off the rails.

 

[Hen Kolland]

1) If there’s a recession (which very much is still a possibility) the cap could continue to be stagnant.
2) it’s a long term complaint. It’s about paying this much for a team that very likely doesn’t make the playoffs next season. The team is almost exclusively spare parts.

It's okay. I personally will replenish all the money that this trade cost you directly.........

 

[Axel Sandy Pelikan]

Oh I meant after this trade.

Nobody has to be. HFBoard heads will want someone moved to guarantee Edvinsson a spot, ignoring the fact that we are damn near certain to have long stretches of one or two D hurt, so Simon will be up and playing a bunch. Teams build this logjam because they know hockey is a rough game and they want to not be playing f***in garbage if a guy hurts.