Speculation: William Karlsson next contract
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Makes the most sense. As I said, only way I see Vegas going long term NOW is around 5M. Otherwise, may as well let Karlsson prove it next year.
Kale Hulls
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No way Karlsson will take 1 year 5 million at this point. He is past the potential stage and has proven he can deliver. If they want to bridge deal him it is going to cost at least 6.5 a year.
Harvey Birdman
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They have to be careful young players like Karlsson going into contract year after a huge single season are players and contract negotiations that can ether set up a team long term or create a boat anchor going forward.
They’d be smart to get a bridge deal out of him, figure out what number he’ll cost for two seasons, then pay him accordingly afterwards. If you long term him after this season you have no idea what the ultimate outcome would be.
They’d be smart to get a bridge deal out of him, figure out what number he’ll cost for two seasons, then pay him accordingly afterwards. If you long term him after this season you have no idea what the ultimate outcome would be.
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skyo
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25 year old William Karlsson is continuing his uberstar ways, this will be his 3rd contract, so I doubt he'll want a bridge contract, he'll want what he deserves.
He leads one of the best teams in the league, was the 3rd highest goal scorer in the NHL & is leading all Vegas forwards in ice time in the playoffs while avg a point a game.
His agent could demand Jack Eichel type money or Leon Draisaitl, but will likely settle with Evgeny Kuznetsov or Ryan Johansen type cash.
He leads one of the best teams in the league, was the 3rd highest goal scorer in the NHL & is leading all Vegas forwards in ice time in the playoffs while avg a point a game.
His agent could demand Jack Eichel type money or Leon Draisaitl, but will likely settle with Evgeny Kuznetsov or Ryan Johansen type cash.
TomasHertlsRooster
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I would give him $8M/7Y on an offer sheet from San Jose if we strike out on Tavares, but we won’t have our 2nd or 1st round pick in 2019, depending on what happens with Evander Kane. But that wouldn’t be too hard to get back.
Doug Wilson has been known to offer sheet players on teams that defeated his Sharks. He offer sheeted Hjalmarsson in 2010, and when Chicago matched, they were forced to let go of Niemi, who San Jose promptly signed in UFA.
Doug Wilson has been known to offer sheet players on teams that defeated his Sharks. He offer sheeted Hjalmarsson in 2010, and when Chicago matched, they were forced to let go of Niemi, who San Jose promptly signed in UFA.
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Fro
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So what do we now think about William Karlsson's next contract? How much would Vegas be signing him for? How much do you think would be fair value for him? How much do you think he'll get in arbitration?
I'm convinced his season was mostly a fluke but he's probably going to be arguing otherwise in his negotiations. I'm curious about where he'll end up.
I'm convinced his season was mostly a fluke but he's probably going to be arguing otherwise in his negotiations. I'm curious about where he'll end up.
DudeWhereIsMakar
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I want Winnipeg to offer-sheet him a big contract to mess with Vegas. But at the same time I don't because it'd be risky if he doesn't produce like he did last year.
It will almost be as if we traded Stastny to Vegas for Karlsson.
It will almost be as if we traded Stastny to Vegas for Karlsson.
CupInSIX
My cap runneth over
I guess he fluked his way into dominating Kopitar in the playoffs as well (not to mention being great all the way to the SCF)
An arbitrator might give him 5m for 1 year, so I think he could sign a 2 year deal worth 5mAAV to match his linemates salary. He can re-up for 8 years 7-8m after that.
A. He's in arbitration, doesn't that mean he can no longer be offer sheeted?
B. You couldn't afford Stastny at 6.5 so you couldn't afford to realistically offer sheet Karlsson anything huge, if he would even sign it.
C. Don't know why you would want to "mess" with Vegas. Did nothing wrong signing UFA Stastny. Didn't even overpay for him in money or term. Someone would have given him that contract, Winnipeg would never have re-signed him unless every other team agreed to not sign him so the Jets could get him for cheap. And Winnipeg knew that and didn't seem too bothered.
Jeez, as a Jackets fan, the idea of giving Wild Bill a 7year/$8m contract as suggested in here, is pretty incomprehensible.
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5.5-6 x 4 years. A 7-8 year deal is too long for one great year but 2 years is too little for a 40 goal scorer. Right in the middle seems fair
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AveryStar4Eva
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In the past 102 games he’s scored 50 goals, 93 points while being a rock defensively. Some risks are worth taking this is one of them. If they can lock him up for around 6.000, 8 years I say do it. 48M is more than he thought he’d ever see in his life and even if he does regress it’s the going rate for an average second line centre.
I agree. I would even do 6.5x8. He would only be 33 at the end of it.
Even if he regresses to a 55-60 point center (unlikely to go any lower, especially playing with Marchessault and Smith) with elite defensive forward play then that contract wouldn't be bad. Especially with a rising cap.
As an overall player he's been good and that obviously shouldn't go, I mean his offensive production. I expect his level to be that of around a 60p 30+30 guy. But I feel like he might not be happy with that after scoring over 40 goals.
Myself, I think a 6x8 or so might be fair considering the cap and all but I feel like he'll be wanting 8x8.
3 Full NHL Seasons:
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2016-17 - 6.3%
Shooting % 2017-18 - 23.4%
I love this player and would go long term but I don't think that's sustainable. I'd want to pay him as a 30 goal scorer, not a 40+ goal scorer.
So...$7.5 x 5?
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2016-17 - 6.3%
Shooting % 2017-18 - 23.4%
I love this player and would go long term but I don't think that's sustainable. I'd want to pay him as a 30 goal scorer, not a 40+ goal scorer.
So...$7.5 x 5?
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Shooting % 2015-16 - 8.3%
Captain97
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His shooting % was almost 24% this year, that is insane, Laine's average over the last 2 years is 18%.
The last 2 years before this one WK shot at about 7.4%. Let's say he regresses to a 14% (almost double his career average before this year and a little below his average if you include this year). He would have scored 26 goals. Now assuming him being less of a scoring threat slightly reduces how many passes he gets through (let's say 90% of last year's occur). Reducing his assist total to 32.
That gives you 26 goals and 32 assists while being borderline elite defensively. Congrats you have a 25 year old Ryan O'Reilly. Long term at 6.5 - 7 million is probably fair. Considering the risk he regresses more than the 14% prediction is quite possible.
The last 2 years before this one WK shot at about 7.4%. Let's say he regresses to a 14% (almost double his career average before this year and a little below his average if you include this year). He would have scored 26 goals. Now assuming him being less of a scoring threat slightly reduces how many passes he gets through (let's say 90% of last year's occur). Reducing his assist total to 32.
That gives you 26 goals and 32 assists while being borderline elite defensively. Congrats you have a 25 year old Ryan O'Reilly. Long term at 6.5 - 7 million is probably fair. Considering the risk he regresses more than the 14% prediction is quite possible.
