Will Lundqvist's #30 be retired?

[Rick Nash 61]

Definitely. After he wins 2 cups over these next 5 years he will be considered the best Ranger ever.

 

[OnlyTruth]

Definitely. After he wins 2 cups over these next 5 years he will be considered the best Ranger ever.

I think the best Ranger ever will always be Mark Messier. He wasn't just a skill guy on the ice, he was great all around.

 

[2Leetch_94]

Anyone wanting #30 after Lundqvist is SOL.

 

[Idlerlee]

Can we rename this thread to "Put in the rafters" instead of having the word retired in it

Also yes, his number will get retired unless he takes a swing at AV or something equally unlikely

 

[Khelvan]

I think the best Ranger ever will always be Mark Messier. He wasn't just a skill guy on the ice, he was great all around.

There are some people who have overstated and continue to overstate his greatness. He was a great player and a great Ranger, but the emotion from '94 tends to cloud perceptions.

For instance, at the end of his tenure in NY he was a shell of the player he used to be, but some fans could never see anything other than a Messier placed on a pedestal.

That remains true today.

 

[PlamsUnlimited]

Best ranger is Leetch IMO.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Does the Pope **** in his hat?

 

[Cassano]

I think the best Ranger ever will always be Mark Messier. He wasn't just a skill guy on the ice, he was great all around.

IMO Hank easily surpasses anyone from that 94 team with a cup win.

That's mainly because of his relative success vs. his peers and that the Rangers always made the playoffs sans 1 year with him.

 

[NYRKindms]

IMO Hank easily surpasses anyone from that 94 team with a cup win.

That's mainly because of his relative success vs. his peers and that the Rangers always made the playoffs sans 1 year with him.

Nope. 94 will always be the measuring stick. They got it done after 50+ years. No other ranger teams has. Not to mention all the HOF players on the 94 team.

Hank is awesome and he will be retired and probably make the HHOF but that 94 team was special and they got it done.

Its like comparing the original SNL cast to those that came later. They were never as good. There were stars and standouts but the 94 team will always be the special one

I understand that some people are just sick of hearing about the 94 cup team. MSG beats it to death so I get why people would tend to diminish the accomplishment so far removed at this point.

 

[Don Chytil]

Yes, the reason i asked is because believe it or not, plenty of people don't think he should hang in the rafters. I wanted to see if anybody on HFBoards disagreed, nobody yet.

A couple years ago I remember certain people saying it wasn't a foregone conclusion. I think the new contract and last year's cup run have changed their minds.

Either way, it was obvious then and obvious now. Only real question left is if he's the greatest Rangers goaltender of all time. I'd say yes.

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

Lundqvist would've received a banner if he retired 2 years ago. Of course.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Nope. 94 will always be the measuring stick. They got it done after 50+ years. No other ranger teams has. Not to mention all the HOF players on the 94 team.

Hank is awesome and he will be retired and probably make the HHOF but that 94 team was special and they got it done.

Its like comparing the original SNL cast to those that came later. They were never as good. There were stars and standouts but the 94 team will always be the special one

I understand that some people are just sick of hearing about the 94 cup team. MSG beats it to death so I get why people would tend to diminish the accomplishment so far removed at this point.

I think putting a franchise on your back and carrying it for 10 years is a better accomplishment than 1 cup run with a team littered with mercenaries.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

A couple years ago I remember certain people saying it wasn't a foregone conclusion. I think the new contract and last year's cup run have changed their minds.

Either way, it was obvious then and obvious now. Only real question left is if he's the greatest Rangers goaltender of all time. I'd say yes.

I'd say hes already the Ranger's greatest goaltender of all-time. Time will tell if he becomes the greatest Ranger ever.

 

[IwanttomoveoutWest*]

Seriously?

Greatest Ranger goalie ever, all due respect to Mike.

 

[Steezer99]

Of course

 

[Whiplash27]

Until Hank wins a Cup, greatest Ranger goes to Leetch.

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Until Hank wins a Cup, greatest Ranger goes to Leetch.

So if Rick Nash scored just a couple goals last year in the SCF, you would change your opinion?

 

[Synergy27]

Just throwing my "duh" vote in lest people start thinking I'm a Lundqvist hater.

 

[Cassano]

I think putting a franchise on your back and carrying it for 10 years is a better accomplishment than 1 cup run with a team littered with mercenaries.

This. Hank did more for this team.

 

[Fataldogg]

IMO Hank easily surpasses anyone from that 94 team with a cup win.

That's mainly because of his relative success vs. his peers and that the Rangers always made the playoffs sans 1 year with him.

Leetch will always be better than Henrik unless Henrik gets some more hardware.

2x Norris, Calder, Conn Smythe, and 1000 career points as a defense man [even though all of them didnt come as a Ranger unfortunately] is more impressive than Lundqvist.

Leetch is the greatest Ranger ever in my book. It also helps his Conn Smythe run was ridiculous and he was one of the highest scoring defense men ever.

 

[Fataldogg]

So if Rick Nash scored just a couple goals last year in the SCF, you would change your opinion?

Thats all it really took too... Nash showing up woukd have been the difference.

 

[NICKtheGREEK]

A couple years ago I remember certain people saying it wasn't a foregone conclusion. I think the new contract and last year's cup run have changed their minds.

Either way, it was obvious then and obvious now. Only real question left is if he's the greatest Rangers goaltender of all time. I'd say yes.

With plenty of respect to Richter and Giacomin, I agree.

 

[Baby Punisher]

Yes, cup or no cup he get's his number up there. If his current injury was career ending he would be up there next season.

 

[Kane One]

Absolutely.

 

[KingStian]

The only way it doesn't happen is if he's involved in som sort of heanious scandal, or he takes a **** in Dolan's coffe cup and sticks Sather's cigar in it like a flag pole. And I don't see that coming.