Wild GM

[Dickie Dunn]

not that im a cf fan because im not, but would you rather have a gm play it safe & did / tried nothing ?

Interesting way to put it. I don't think any GM in any sport is paid to "try".

 

[Victorious Secret]

I haven't been here long but you're smarter than this.

Considering you're bringing up something that could be construed as conspiracy with no evidence, you should expect a disengenuous reaction for farfetched talk.

 

[DANOZ28]

whats wrong with the word "try"? are you saying trades or draft picks or ufa come with guarantees?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Considering you're bringing up something that could be construed as conspiracy with no evidence, you should expect a disengenuous reaction for farfetched talk.

C'mon.....Vanek signing with the Wild was one of the worst kept free agency "secrets" in the NHL for months.

 

[Victorious Secret]

C'mon.....Vanek signing with the Wild was one of the worst kept free agency "secrets" in the NHL for months.

Just because everyone knows the player and team have a 'want' with one another, doesn't make it collusion.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

whats wrong with the word "try"? are you saying trades or draft picks or ufa come with guarantees?

Succeed/fail, no try in pro sports. When a GM signs a guy trending in the wrong direction to a multiyear deal he is doing so with a foot out the door. Vanek, not good. Staal, looking really good. But 50/50 is still only "ok".

 

[Dickie Dunn]

Just because everyone knows the player and team have a 'want' with one another, doesn't make it collusion.

sure, that's why 10-15 high profile guys sign on day 1 of free agency.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I haven't been here long but you're smarter than this.

Was going to respond, but this pretty much sums it up...

So you think Fletcher or an intermediary had verbal/written communication and an agreement in place to sign Vanek day 1 of free agency?

Did Fletcher know Vanek was interested? Probably, it was widely known he wanted to come home.

Did Fletcher use that knowledge to plan his offseason around signing a good point producer for less than market. Likely, he'd be stupid not to.

Was an agreement in place? God no. No GM is stupid enough to risk direction communcation with another player under contract. ****, Benning got fined for talking about a player on the radio.

 

[ThatGuy22]

sure, that's why 10-15 high profile guys sign on day 1 of free agency.

There is a week before free agency where teams can talk to pending UFAs. hasn't always been the case but has been for 5 or so years now.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Should also be noted, that Vanek wasn't exactly a sure thing from the Wild's perspective. We had cash for one of Iginla or Vanek, and it's well documented that we were in Iginla's top 3 but we wouldn't offer the third year Colorado did.

Vanek didn't sign within minutes of free agency opening, it was well into the afternoon after we were out on Iginla. Not out of the question, nor would it surprise me if Fletcher preferred Iginla.

Hardly a signed and sealed deal just waiting for July 1st.

 

[Minnewildsota]

Succeed/fail, no try in pro sports. When a GM signs a guy trending in the wrong direction to a multiyear deal he is doing so with a foot out the door. Vanek, not good. Staal, looking really good. But 50/50 is still only "ok".

Yoda, is that you?

Vikings tried to put a championship team together this year. Unfortunately, injuries derailed that plan. I appreciate them realizing the time was now and going for it. Just sucks it didn't work out.

I appreciate the effort, with sound logic, of trying.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

So you think Fletcher or an intermediary had verbal/written communication and an agreement in place to sign Vanek day 1 of free agency?

Did Fletcher know Vanek was interested? Probably, it was widely known he wanted to come home.

Did Fletcher use that knowledge to plan his offseason around signing a good point producer for less than market. Likely, he'd be stupid not to.

Was an agreement in place? God no. No GM is stupid enough to risk direction communcation with another player under contract. ****, Benning got fined for talking about a player on the radio.

Fletcher himself? Of course not but verbal agreement? Yes, absolutely.

And yeah......he said it on the radio. What choice did the NHL have? Otherwise tampering penalties are darn rare and for good reason.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Fletcher himself? Of course not but verbal agreement? Yes, absolutely.

And yeah......he said it on the radio. What choice did the NHL have? Otherwise tampering penalties are darn rare and for good reason.

So why wasn't it done at 10:01 AM, and why the dance with Iginla?

 

[Dickie Dunn]

https://www.nhl.com/news/signing-in-minnesota-beyond-vaneks-wildest-dreams/c-724824

Re-read the story again and tell me there was ever any doubt that it was a foregone conclusion he would sign here.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

https://www.nhl.com/news/signing-in-minnesota-beyond-vaneks-wildest-dreams/c-724824

Re-read the story again and tell me there was ever any doubt that it was a foregone conclusion he would sign here.

I honestly don't know how you can find a pre-arranged verbal agreement in that article. All it shows is that Vanek really wanted to come here. That's pretty much it.