Why were the Ducks eliminated in the first round in 2008?

[Smirnov2Chistov]

schneider played well that season but i hated the bertuzzi signing from day one because the guy is a POS. made it worse that he didn't do shit on the ice either

I’m sure Bertuzzi contributed more than Doug Weight, Jason Blake and Mat Schneider combined. I don’t remember much from that time, but wasn’t he supposed to be the Penner replacement?

 

[Terry Yake]

I’m sure Bertuzzi contributed more than Doug Weight, Jason Blake and Mat Schneider combined. I don’t remember much from that time, but wasn’t he supposed to be the Penner replacement?

blake didn't join the ducks until 2010

bertuzzi contributed more than weight but schneider was far more a difference maker for that team. yes, he was supposed to be penner's replacement but he just never gelled with getzlaf and perry

 

[FiveTacos]

One of the things that worked against us was that we weren't a team that won based on raw talent. Not that there weren't great players, but that team had almost every last guy on the roster willing to pay the price and skate through a wall to win a loose puck.

Once you win however, some of the less talented guys lose a little something. Seemed to me our grinders started thinking they were a bit more skilled players than they actually were. And why not, when many of those guys scored big goals at big moments in the playoffs? But the thing is, they scored those goals off insane effort, not insane ability.

You get 20 guys going balls out to win the Cup, that's one thing. The '07 team just had a relentless fury to their game that broke opponents. That same team with, say, "only" 90% of that same fury ... not gonna be the same. Our talent level wasn't so extreme that we could afford any kind of drop off in teamwide effort.

 

[Paul4587]

blake didn't join the ducks until 2010

bertuzzi contributed more than weight but schneider was far more a difference maker for that team. yes, he was supposed to be penner's replacement but he just never gelled with getzlaf and perry

I think he was more of a Selanne replacement. Penner didn’t sign the OS until well after Bertuzzi signed. His production was adequate if he were bought in to replace Penner but it was Teemu he was meant to be replacing. He went on one stretch with the twins where he was on a tear but then reverted back to being lazy and over passing.

 

[ADHB]

I don’t think Bergeron was acquired until the trade deadline, well after everyone was back and playing. Think he was more a depth move in the same mould as Jackman was the year before.

And he was always known strictly as a PP QB. He was notoriously bad defensively, but could run a PP and had a cannon shot. He was never going to be a top 4 guy, but like you said, sort of a specialist who could be effective in a limited role.

 

[Bender66]

That team was Bertuzzi-ed. I'm glad they didn't win anything.
Still can't believe Burke traded AndyMac for doug f***ing weight.

 

[ADHB]

Obviously not a great move by any accounts, but in order to get Teemu and Scotty back they needed to trade guys whose contracts extended past that season for guys with expiring contracts. That's when everyone got introduced to the whole tagging issue.

They got screwed over by both players doing the waiting game thing, and then Burke compounded it by signing guys to bloated contracts which made the problem even worse.

 

[GermanRocket7]

My question here being why we couldn't just give away Bertuzzi for "future considerations" instead? I'm absolutely sure that we could have gotten an offer similar to that from one team or five. Bertuzzi was just 32 at that point in time and he played until 2013 in the NHL. While his contract was pretty expensive for that day and age of the salary cap, one of the rebuilding teams most likely would have wanted him to be a go-to guy for their young players. I mean, it's not as if there were no nasty teams with bad reputation guys around. Looking at the Cookes, Tootoos, Neals and Downies that already played in the league back then, he surely wouldn not have caused a red flag amongst all other GMs to take on.

It was a stupid decision by Burke to pull the trigger immediately, as it looked like, on a deal involving your #1/#2 center. His bromance to Bertuzzi was something special that, I fear, cost us at least one more serious run at the Cup.

 

[la patineuse]

That team was Bertuzzi-ed. I'm glad they didn't win anything.
Still can't believe Burke traded AndyMac for doug f***ing weight.

That was one of the worst trades in Anaheim's history. Doug Weight was washed up and played like Anaheim was the last team he wanted to play for.

 

[heynowbababooey]

I recall Doug Weight scoring either a last minute game tying goal or ot goal against San Jose. Other than that his time with Anaheim is so forgettable.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Never should have signed Bertuzzi and Schneider to begin with, then they would have had the cap space to bring back Selanne and Niedermayer without having to move AndyMac.
They didn't need to panic and sign both Bertuzzi and Schneider because they were likely to have a 'Cup Hangover' season anyways.

Then the following year in 08-09 they could have had this top 2 lines in 2008-09:
Bobby/Getzlaf/Perry
Kunitz/AndyMac/Selanne
and i think they get pass the Detroit with that group.

 

[Terry Yake]

Never should have signed Bertuzzi and Schneider to begin with, then they would have had the cap space to bring back Selanne and Niedermayer without having to move AndyMac.
They didn't need to panic and sign both Bertuzzi and Schneider because they were likely to have a 'Cup Hangover' season anyways.

Then the following year in 08-09 they could have had this top 2 lines in 2008-09:
Bobby/Getzlaf/Perry
Kunitz/AndyMac/Selanne
and i think they get pass the Detroit with that group.

the bertuzzi signing was just burke bringing one of "his boys" in. the schneider signing had to be done because no one knew if niedermayer was coming back or not

neither of those moves was a "panic move." the panic move was trading andy mac for nothing. i get what others have mentioned about him having a slow start to the season and figuring he was a product of selanne. but still, coming off two seasons where he put up 70+ pts, there's no excuse for getting that awful of a return

 

[Paul4587]

Never should have signed Bertuzzi and Schneider to begin with, then they would have had the cap space to bring back Selanne and Niedermayer without having to move AndyMac.
They didn't need to panic and sign both Bertuzzi and Schneider because they were likely to have a 'Cup Hangover' season anyways.

Then the following year in 08-09 they could have had this top 2 lines in 2008-09:
Bobby/Getzlaf/Perry
Kunitz/AndyMac/Selanne
and i think they get pass the Detroit with that group.

If they ice that group of forwards it’s incredibly unlikely they ice the blueline that they did in 08-09 which was a huge part of our post season success.