Why is most of this board so concerned about ratings?

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Ratings/TV viewership/etc.

They aren't going to just quit displaying hockey on television simply because it doesn't get the ratings the super bowl receives.

Knock it off. If youre that insecure about ratings regarding your favorite sport then maybe its time to throw in the towel and watch soccer.
 

agentblack

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Ratings/TV viewership/etc.

They aren't going to just quit displaying hockey on television simply because it doesn't get the ratings the super bowl receives.

Knock it off. If youre that insecure about ratings regarding your favorite sport then maybe its time to throw in the towel and watch soccer.

Its important to a degree because while TV is more democratized its still reliant on ratings and poor ratings means less exposure which means less corporate sponsors and if they pull out that means less money for the network and well there goes that game 7 in favor of a horse race.

why do you think the NFL is super rich? its all about the ratings.
 

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I would not have characterized the boards as fixated on TV ratings but the reality is Hockey is sport #4 in the US and a bigger market share means more security for our favorite sport.

Some markets it is a real concern because not every franchise is safe and they need good ratings to justify their presence.
 

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Yeah, I don't think the NHL is in danger of being taken off television altogether, especially in Canada.


I think people just want their favorite sport to be enjoyed by many people and to be considered popular, but really, who cares if some people enjoy watching inferior sports?

If you enjoy hockey, just watch it and don't care about what others like.
 

Megustaelhockey

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If the NHL could survive the 1980s on TV in the United States, it can survive anything.

A little perspective here goes a long way.
 

HitoftheMillennium*

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Some wrestling fans are obsessed with the ratings of Raw, and I don't think they're worried it's going to be pulled from the air.


People seem to want everyone to watch what they watch.
 
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agentblack

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I would not have characterized the boards as fixated on TV ratings but the reality is Hockey is sport #4 in the US and a bigger market share means more security for our favorite sport.

Some markets it is a real concern because not every franchise is safe and they need good ratings to justify their presence.


it's not even that. it's probably 6th, maybe even 7th, hell 8th if Serena decides to win a Wimbledon or whatever tennis tourney is on.

but i agree. Better TV deals mean more money for everyone. NHL players should be making just as much an MLB players. The fact they don't is just ridiculous. Now its not the only reason they dont but its an important part of it i think.
 

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Because many NHL fans have an inferiority complex

Ding ding ding

Either an inferiority complex about hockey lagging behind other sports, or an opportunity for a **** measuring contest with other fanbases.

Either way, it's not *really* about the ratings. I doubt anyone here has a big financial investment that would justify a serious concern about ratings.
 

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Game 7 vs Ottawa and Pittsburgh set NBC record for a game involving a Canadian team.
 

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I think it's only natural to be invested in the health of the product when you are so emotionally invested in it.

The trend from ratings figures helps to partly determine the league's health.
 

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Ding ding ding

Either an inferiority complex about hockey lagging behind other sports, or an opportunity for a **** measuring contest with other fanbases.

Either way, it's not *really* about the ratings. I doubt anyone here has a big financial investment that would justify a serious concern about ratings.

^ This... its mostly just another angle
 

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Nobody is concerned about the ratings, its just interesting to know.

It didnt matter what the ratings were for Game 7 of the ECF to us (barring they werent catastrophic), there is still going to be televised hockey next year and the sun is still going to come up

But to know that 70% of Pittsburgh televisions tuned into the game is a stat many hockey fans will be happy to hear

But no doubt ratings will be down this year. I'm not even sure if anybody in Montreal will tune in:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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it's not even that. it's probably 6th, maybe even 7th, hell 8th if Serena decides to win a Wimbledon or whatever tennis tourney is on.

but i agree. Better TV deals mean more money for everyone. NHL players should be making just as much an MLB players. The fact they don't is just ridiculous. Now its not the only reason they dont but its an important part of it i think.

Baseball in the US is what hockey is in Canada. It started taking a little bit of a hit #1 because fantasy sports got big and football is much easier too get behind because once a week and baseball is everyday and intricate #2 Baseball isn't cheap to play and has a harder time in inner cities to infiltrate very similar to hockey #3 Kids want to get paid and while you can make the most money in baseball it's by far the hardest to get in the majors and stay and not only stay but then get paid. Kids see $$$ with guaranteed money in basketball and football and go to it.

Baseball is still levels more popular then hockey in the states. There are some teams with attendance issues some years but normally even God awful teams have not much trouble making money. I mean look at the cubs or Mets or dodgers. They haven't won many championships the past say 50 years but they have no problems filling the seats. Hell the cubs play **** tons of day games and sell out. When hockey teams sell out weekday games at 12pm in the states that's when they will be able to get that money.
 

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Baseball in the US is what hockey is in Canada. It started taking a little bit of a hit #1 because fantasy sports got big and football is much easier too get behind because once a week and baseball is everyday and intricate #2 Baseball isn't cheap to play and has a harder time in inner cities to infiltrate very similar to hockey #3 Kids want to get paid and while you can make the most money in baseball it's by far the hardest to get in the majors and stay and not only stay but then get paid. Kids see $$$ with guaranteed money in basketball and football and go to it.

Baseball is still levels more popular then hockey in the states. There are some teams with attendance issues some years but normally even God awful teams have not much trouble making money. I mean look at the cubs or Mets or dodgers. They haven't won many championships the past say 50 years but they have no problems filling the seats. Hell the cubs play **** tons of day games and sell out. When hockey teams sell out weekday games at 12pm in the states that's when they will be able to get that money.

it is? Get a ball and a bat. Done. Hockey otoh is ridiculous and I wish the league would do more
to grow the game in inner cities and urban areas but it's just so difficult and it's easier
to a get a ball and do whatever
 

mikeyp24

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it is? Get a ball and a bat. Done. Hockey otoh is ridiculous and I wish the league would do more
to grow the game in inner cities and urban areas but it's just so difficult and it's easier
to a get a ball and do whatever
look up prices for bats. The quality is important because it will effect how far the ball goes. Then you buy the helmets, batting gloves, a regular glove. Cleats every year. Some league's don't have the money for pants so you buy those. Then basically every 2 years you are gauranteed to need new equipment because you grow. I was lucky enough to grow up playing at the #3 baseball facility in the states and they had great sponsors so I only needed to worry about batting gloves and my fielding glove because the sponsors paid for a **** ton of top of the line bats and helmets. I coach in a league now though where kids pay for the uniforms themselves and they have to bring their own equipment and it stops a lot of kids from joining because the Football teams and programs around here are extremely well funded. And this is a town that is run by local and HS sports. It's a Midwest version of the show Friday night lights basically haha.

But basically it's a few hundred a year for baseball as to where basketball is a pair of shoes and football they provide the equipment so it's basically shoes.
 

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I stopped caring about ratings during the last lockout. I'd prefer it if more people were into hockey, but I'm not going to worry about the NHL's stagnant popularity when the owners hardly care themselves.
 

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Nobody is concerned about the ratings, its just interesting to know.

It didnt matter what the ratings were for Game 7 of the ECF to us (barring they werent catastrophic), there is still going to be televised hockey next year and the sun is still going to come up

But to know that 70% of Pittsburgh televisions tuned into the game is a stat many hockey fans will be happy to hear

But no doubt ratings will be down this year. I'm not even sure if anybody in Montreal will tune in:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

You'd be surprised by how many habs fans are rooting for PK Subban
 

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look up prices for bats. The quality is important because it will effect how far the ball goes. Then you buy the helmets, batting gloves, a regular glove. Cleats every year. Some league's don't have the money for pants so you buy those. Then basically every 2 years you are gauranteed to need new equipment because you grow. I was lucky enough to grow up playing at the #3 baseball facility in the states and they had great sponsors so I only needed to worry about batting gloves and my fielding glove because the sponsors paid for a **** ton of top of the line bats and helmets. I coach in a league now though where kids pay for the uniforms themselves and they have to bring their own equipment and it stops a lot of kids from joining because the Football teams and programs around here are extremely well funded. And this is a town that is run by local and HS sports. It's a Midwest version of the show Friday night lights basically haha.

But basically it's a few hundred a year for baseball as to where basketball is a pair of shoes and football they provide the equipment so it's basically shoes.

Are you comparing the price of hockey vs baseball? Low end hockey equipment probably costs around $450, that's not even including added costs like broken sticks, blade sharpening, tape, etc.


edit: here's an article I found (first hit) on average costs of sports for kids
 

DJJones

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People seem concerned about competing with the other big sports. They think hockey is the best sport and so therefore be more popular than Basketball or Football.

I get the logic but personally don't care. As long as hockey grows at an inflation/population rate I'm happy. **** Basketball.
 

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