Gee, I wonder who made the argument that 2000 - not 1999 - was Jagr's best season and the best season ever by a European player
in this thread?
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showpost.php?p=70877565&postcount=56
Because no one really talked about his TOI in 1999
before this thread. We're not turning it into a
negative (I even said it was a positive argument for the Hart Trophy), but it is a factor that benefited his raw points total just as Kip Miller is a factor that did not benefit his raw points total. We're talking about all of it, but for some reason, some people (including habsfanatics) are claiming that TOI is irrelevant.
And yet you took offense with my challenge to Big Phil claiming that there was "no debate"? I threw out the end of Jagr's career, I threw out the beginning of Jagr's career - there is no section of Jagr's career that meets up with the assist rate of Forsberg from 1995-2011.
The claim that he only has a higher APG than Jagr because of a shorter career is false. It is arguable that Forsberg was a better playmaker than Jagr. That was the whole point.
I look forward to you quoting the post where I said it was the
only factor.
So did I in my very first post in this thread that you read in its entirety.