Who's responsible for high prices? Fans

[LadyStanley]

http://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201101/most-powerful-people-sports-fans

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The fans possess absolute power. That’s right, it’s those standing shirtless in the snow, with freshly painted faces and the home team’s name scrawled across their chests, watching intently as their team drives for the winning score that are in charge. When and whether fans choose to wield their power is another story.


The sports business industry not only understands just how unbelievably and reliably tolerant fans are, but it also parlays their emotional attachment to sell related products and services. Think about it: Fans actually pay upwards of $100 to purchase a jersey in order to tell the world that they support (revere?) the team’s recently acquired $100 million ballplayer … often regardless of the player’s off-field problems.


These same fans are essentially responsible for what they perceive to be wrong with sports because they never materially change their spending or consumption patterns. They don’t vote with their feet often enough by balking at high-priced game-day experiences, and they certainly don’t vote via remote control by tuning away from televised sports. Put down the sports app-laden iPhone and pick up a copy of The Big Short? Not while The Big Game is on. Or a fantasy roster needs updating. Or SportsCenter is on. Then again, as compelling as sports can be to watch, whether in person or from the comfort of home via a 65-inch flat screen, who can really blame them?

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[ponder]

Well, obviously. Anyone who says "games are too expensive, they should be cheaper!" clearly has a fundamental lack of understanding of even the most basic principles of economics.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Send this to Toronto ASAP!!


It will save their franchise.

 

[htpwn]

Who is responsible for high ticket prices?

^ This ******.

 

[Gobias Industries]

That disgusting ***** called capitalism is at it again...

 

[TaketheCannoli]

That disgusting ***** called capitalism is at it again...

Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Where it breaks down is when people choose to spend their money for unacceptable products. The Canucks deserve to sell out at strong prices, so do the Red Wings, Flyers, Pens etc.

The people who continue to support the garbage operations around the league actually enable the poor operations. I'll never understand the people who believe every game should sell out at premium prices regardless of quality. They only hurt themselves.

 

[syc]

Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Where it breaks down is when people choose to spend their money for unacceptable products. The Canucks deserve to sell out at strong prices, so do the Red Wings, Flyers, Pens etc.

The people who continue to support the garbage operations around the league actually enable the poor operations. I'll never understand the people who believe every game should sell out at premium prices regardless of quality. They only hurt themselves.

Welcome to life! People supported Obama, the catholic chruch, George bush, oh and don't forget your war in Iraq!

The only support a winner syndrome. Your bandwagon called, they will be stopping by next week.

 

[syc]

Capitalism is a wonderful thing.

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

 

[jessebelanger]

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

Because all people are equal and deserve the same things, regardless of work ethic or ability - right?

 

[Tommy Hawk]

http://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201101/most-powerful-people-sports-fans

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I know that the Sox and Hawks fans in Chciago spoke loud and clear with their pocket books an it ending up bringing us a World Series Championship and a Stanley Cup and just overall better teams.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

I know that the Sox and Hawks fans in Chciago spoke loud and clear with their pocket books an it ending up bringing us a World Series Championship and a Stanley Cup and just overall better teams.

Yup, we SOX fans don't support losing, unlike that other club's fans to the north.

 

[TaketheCannoli]

Welcome to life! People supported Obama, the catholic chruch, George bush, oh and don't forget your war in Iraq!

The only support a winner syndrome. Your bandwagon called, they will be stopping by next week.

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

It's one thing to only support a winner. It's another to support a very poorly managed business. It's not about winning all of the time, but rather a well run business. As an example, the Islanders are a poorly run business. It appears to me that the Oilers are well run, yet not successful on the ice.

I gotta wonder, are you supporting socialism as a better answer? Additionally, what the hell does the Catholic Church and the war in Iraq have to do with your view of capitalism?

 

[Tommy Hawk]

Yup, we SOX fans don't support losing, unlike that other club's fans to the north.

What other club??

 

[Tommy Hawk]

Welcome to life! People supported Obama, the catholic chruch, George bush, oh and don't forget your war in Iraq!

The only support a winner syndrome. Your bandwagon called, they will be stopping by next week.

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

It is much easier managing a country of 30 million than one of 300 million.....

 

[cbcwpg]

This isn't rocket science. Without the fans paying what the NHL can ask and get, there is no NHL.

 

[saskganesh]

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

yes, but that's not the hockey entertainment market.

 

[saskganesh]

I should make a pun about safety nets and hockey nets, but that's getting way OT.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

doesnt apply to islanders. raised tix prices 19% and isles are like bottom 3 like three years running.

 

[Sorge Georos]

Yeah it's working wonders for America, what your unemployment rate now? 12%? How many people live below the poverty line in America? 20% Yeah capitalism is working for ya.

America at this point can't even be classified as simply capitalistic anymore. Do the research.

 

[Jeffrey93]

This isn't really a hockey article.

I can get tickets in....

Atlanta for $14.25
Miami for $13.75
Nashville for $19
Dallas for $17.17
St. Louis for $10
San Jose for $23
New Jersey for $10
Los Angeles for $15

I'll stop now.

It's funny that the quoted part of the article says "The sports business industry not only understands just how unbelievably and reliably tolerant fans are"
and
"They don’t vote with their feet often enough by balking at high-priced game-day experiences, and they certainly don’t vote via remote control by tuning away from televised sports.".

What is funny about that is every supporter of every market that has attendance problems in the NHL claims this is EXACTLY what is happening there. Fans are there and willing to fill the building every night.....but they are 'voting with their feet' to send a message.

There is no high ticket price problem in the NHL as a whole....and NHL fans aren't (according to certain people) anything like what this article suggests. They really are...just not in specific markets I guess....although the fans in those markets are probably the same...there just aren't as many of them.

Either way....this might be an NFL problem, or a problem in some select NHL markets....but clearly this isn't a league-wide problem in the NHL.

 

[Jeffrey93]

It is much easier managing a country of 30 million than one of 300 million.....

It is??

 

[Jeffrey93]

This isn't rocket science. Without the fans paying what the NHL can ask and get, there is no NHL.

Seems to me there are several places where fans aren't paying what the NHL is asking. Yet the NHL is still around....and so are those franchises.

They don't seem to be asking all that much there either.

 

[wjhl2009fan]

Tommy Hawk
In some case's yes your right but in some cases its very hard to manage a country of 30 million.

 

[jessebelanger]

This isn't really a hockey article.

I can get tickets in....

Atlanta for $14.25
Miami for $13.75
Nashville for $19
Dallas for $17.17
St. Louis for $10
San Jose for $23
New Jersey for $10
Los Angeles for $15

I'll stop now.

It's funny that the quoted part of the article says "The sports business industry not only understands just how unbelievably and reliably tolerant fans are"
and
"They don’t vote with their feet often enough by balking at high-priced game-day experiences, and they certainly don’t vote via remote control by tuning away from televised sports.".

What is funny about that is every supporter of every market that has attendance problems in the NHL claims this is EXACTLY what is happening there. Fans are there and willing to fill the building every night.....but they are 'voting with their feet' to send a message.

There is no high ticket price problem in the NHL as a whole....and NHL fans aren't (according to certain people) anything like what this article suggests. They really are...just not in specific markets I guess....although the fans in those markets are probably the same...there just aren't as many of them.

Either way....this might be an NFL problem, or a problem in some select NHL markets....but clearly this isn't a league-wide problem in the NHL.

You stopped before getting to Ottawa's 22 dollar tickets !

 

[Magnus Fulgur]

It is??

Yes. Canada has 413 reps in the upper and lower houses, while the US has 535 reps for ten times as many people. Plus, almost all nations over 100m have to maintain some kind of "imperialistic" resources to keep more people with wealth and power.

It also doesn't help that the US has 11m undocumented immigrants and millions of urban poor trapped in ghettos exploited but not meaningfully helped by liberals and conservatives each election.

Pretty much every country with over 100m in the world right now is an utter mess, so don't think the US is really doing something unusually corrupt. They could be Brazil and go around shooting homeless kids in the streets to help win tourist bucks.