Hartnell's 37 goal season would have shattered the team record. Do you really think he would have gotten anywhere near that number playing for Trotz.
Wasn't the original claim that kids, a handful of them in particular, are not or have not been given a chance? Attempting to make predictions about how a player who hasn't played here in 5 years would be doing now is not even close to relevant. Peverly was given time with the top two lines, even centering a line with Kariya, who was still very productive, for part of the 2006-2007 season. I guess we can always say, "Well, that was only 13 games", but the point is he was given a chance.
The next season his quality of teammates stat is just below that of Alexander Radulov, a player most would consider to be offensively skilled, if not mentally mature. Again we see Pevs getting his shot, but not much coming in the way of production. Hell, Antti Pihlstrom, a kid who wasn't even good enough to be claimed on the waiver wire, was given a pretty good chance to show he has the offensive skill to stick around at this level. He had a higher quality of teammates than everyone except Dumont, Arnott and Bochenski (who played only 8 games compared to Pihlstrom's 53).
So far I'm not seeing much in the way of Trotz making these guys muck it up with the grinders, and, rather, I'm seeing Trotz giving them ice time with the best players our team had to offer.
The guys who were at the lower end of quality of teammates that year? Guys you would expect to be. Bonk, Tootoo, Nichol, Fiddler, etc. Trotz really only moved those guys into higher roles when the kids, who were drafted for their offensive flare, failed to live up to expectations, which happens more often than not when you're talking about guys drafted at the picks we had.
What about Santorelli? Well, again, we see him near the top of the list in terms of quality of teammates. Antti Pihlstrom dropped dramatically down that list, as he showed he simply could not bury the puck. Hornqvist began working his way up the list. Cal O'Reilly as well. And again we see names like Tootoo, Nichol, Fiddler, Ortmeyer, Smithson and Bonk at the bottom of the list. Even Ryan Jones, a guy who was rated as a 7.0B prospect with goal-scoring capability, was given his chance. That didn't work out, either.
Moving along to quality of competition, you see names like Pihlstrom, Santorelli, Arnott, Dumont, Jones, hell even Legwand at the bottom of the pile in 2008-2009. All of those guys were given the majority of their shift starts in the offensive zone as well. 2007-2008? While the quality of competition is more evenly distributed, you still see guys like Peverly, Radulov and Pihlstrom given a good amount of offensive zone starts.
And then there's the eye test. We didn't have the most skilled offensive groups after the 2007 fire sale. The line of Arnott, Dumont and Radulov did pretty well for about half of a season in 2007-2008, but that's essentially all we had. Still, Trotz gave ample opportunity to the guys who were expected to be our offensively gifted prospects and they simply couldn't make it work.
So is it really Trotz demanding these kids earn their TOI by developing a two-way game, or was the need to develop a two-way game more the result of the roster we had after having a pretty damn good roster blown up in 2007? And were the decisions made to release a couple of guys made because they simply were not the right fit to help fix a struggling offense?
Blaming Trotz for things is fine, hell I know I do it my fair share, but instead of asking if X player would put up Y points on our team after they did it on a completely different team isn't much of an argument.
I guess we can bemoan Poile and his lack of ability to construct rosters that allowed certain prospects to shine, but are we then going to ignore other circumstances like the question marks surrounding the viability of the franchise in Nashville for a few years after the messy sale? Or the existence of 29 other markets with their own things to offer? Or the desires of the players who signed elsewhere, things that may not be able to be changes with a slick sales pitch? What about the 2010-2011 team that was top ten in every basic stat? Not a bad turn around from having to sell off good players for nothing, and not being able to re-sign other good players, just a few years before. Does no blame go to the coaching staff in Milwaukee? Are we going to just ignore how the majority of prospects absolutely flame out, a lot of times before even playing a game in the NHL?
It really cannot be all Trotz's fault, and, honestly, this idea that he destroys offensive ability is silly to me.