Who won the Anisimov-Saad trade?

[gwh]

Chicago "won", despite losing in assets. The trade had to be done and the return was very sufficient with lower cap.

Great trade that fixed many problems for both teams and created almost no new ones.

 

[major major]

Chicago didn't win.

People forget that Dano was worth a lot at the time of the trade, probably worth more than Arty. He was the Saad replacement, and Arty was a soon to be UFA C that they were able to lock up early (though at $4.5m not saving themselves much cap over Saad).

I think in hindsight Chicago would have done things differently.

 

[pucky]

You're literally comparing the safest big city in N.America to the least safe.
Toronto is the safest large city you'll find on the continent.

If you're going to say really stupid things, you should take it to the politics section where it belongs.

How did a hockey-related thread morph into a comparison of murder rates?

 

[varano]

Wouldn't it have been nice for kane and toews to take a 1.25m dollar haircut so that they could afford to keep saad?

 

[LeafFever]

If you're going to say really stupid things, you should take it to the politics section where it belongs.

How did a hockey-related thread morph into a comparison of murder rates?

It's not "Stupid", it's facts.

 

[Boud]

You're literally comparing the safest big city in N.America to the least safe.
Toronto is the safest large city you'll find on the continent.

Ottawa is a lot more safe isn't it?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Wouldn't it have been nice for kane and toews to take a 1.25m dollar haircut so that they could afford to keep saad?

Would have been nice if the cap projections were reliable at the time.

 

[LeafFever]

Ottawa is a lot more safe isn't it?

No. Not per capita.

 

[theaub]

Chicago is a perfectly safe city 24 hours of the day unless you choose for it not to be.

 

[Zaddy91]

both teams won

 

[Sensin5]

Given where we are, it is pretty much certain that, as with all others, Toronto won that trade big time. As for who lost, clearly it was the Senators, who got fleeced.

 

[ThatSaid]

It's not "Stupid", it's facts.

Oh FFS. Please, if you don't know anything about Chicago, just shut up about it. This is what happens when facts don't matter any more. You probably believe this because one guy who doesn't give a **** about facts got boo'd out of the city (his rally was cancelled due to protests) and he's ********** about it.

Look at per capita murder rates. One murder is one too many, and I don't much like how many Chicagoans are trying to separate the South Side from downtown Chicago. We're one city.

We may not be as nice as people from Toronto. We might not be as polite, and we may beep our horns three times a day in traffic. But we're proud of our city. Does that mean we think it can't get better? No. We know it can. But there's a reason those of us with the means to leave still choose to live here. As for some of the cities you critics hail from: Toronto is just a sanitized Chicago. Denver is a nice place to visit, but is so small it hardly qualifies as a city. I'm pretty sure I could still navigate the entire city even though its been so long since I've been there.

As for the trade, Bowman had been targeting AA for a few seasons. Always thought he would fit Kane well. Looks like he was right. Saad is probably the better overall player, but given the cap situation, I think Bowman made the best of a pretty difficult situation.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Anyone who doesn't feel safe in Chicago is a coward. Plain and simple. You think players on the Blackhawks have to live in fear of getting shot? Get real. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Bobby Orr's Knees]

Oh FFS. Please, if you don't know anything about Chicago, just shut up about it. This is what happens when facts don't matter any more. You probably believe this because one guy who doesn't give a **** about facts got boo'd out of the city (his rally was cancelled due to protests) and he's ********** about it.

Look at per capita murder rates. One murder is one too many, and I don't much like how many Chicagoans are trying to separate the South Side from downtown Chicago. We're one city.

We may not be as nice as people from Toronto. We might not be as polite, and we may beep our horns three times a day in traffic. But we're proud of our city. Does that mean we think it can't get better? No. We know it can. But there's a reason those of us with the means to leave still choose to live here. As for some of the cities you critics hail from: Toronto is just a sanitized Chicago. Denver is a nice place to visit, but is so small it hardly qualifies as a city. I'm pretty sure I could still navigate the entire city even though its been so long since I've been there.

You are wasting your energy. He/she does not deserve a response. He does not care about the truth - logic and facts are wasted on this sort of a person. He uses his pathetic ignorance as a weapon. Let him be.

 

[ThatSaid]

Anyone who doesn't feel safe in Chicago is a coward. Plain and simple. You think players on the Blackhawks have to live in fear of getting shot? Get real. Just admit you don't know what you're talking about.

Seriously. I've lived in REAL dangerous cities. I spent one year living in Baghdad, and one year living in Mosul. Now out there, you see decapitated corpses of it's citizens laying in the gutter. Those are real tough towns.

Oh, but I'm sure these guys have seen similar things rolling down Grand Avenue. Give me a break.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The whole trade was:

Artem Anisimov, Marko Dano, Jeremy Morin, Corey Tropp and a 4th in 2016 (moved down a few spots and selected Lucas Carlsson and got a 6th in 2017 from the Islanders for that) to Chicago

Brandon Saad, Alex Broadhurst and Michael Paliotta to Columbus

It is a bit more than that. Saad was a cap dump.

Anisimov+Dano+Morin+Tropp+4th+cap space

for

Saad+Broadhurst+Paliotta

 

[WarriorofTime]

Panik has been the most pleasant surprise for the Hawks this season. Technically got him for Morin but I think Morin was more of a throw in at the time.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

People are buying into the rhetoric that Chicago is plagued by gang violence to the point that people are shot in broad daylight.

Yeah, people are dumb.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

No. Not per capita.

So you can use per capita to claim that Toronto is the safest city but you use the total number of murders without accounting for the amount of people that live there against Chicago. Ok.

 

[Savardian Spinorama]

Panik has been the most pleasant surprise for the Hawks this season. Technically got him for Morin but I think Morin was more of a throw in at the time.

Totally agree. He is becoming quite a weapon and one we got for a piece that never fit in Chicago. I'm starting to understand why a certain Toronto fan is trying to derail.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I have a feeling that not too many hockey players are hanging out in Englewood/Garfield Park.

 

[Honey Bear]

Saad won because he doesn't have to live in Chicago anymore

For it being a trade that had to be made, Chicago came out of it pretty well.

also this

Top 10 world-class city. When you make irrational statements like this, they usually back fire on you. Try again next time.

 

[Honey Bear]

You're literally comparing the safest big city in N.America to the least safe.
Toronto is the safest large city you'll find on the continent.

Haha least safe. Post some facts to back that up. Oh wait you can't.

Ownt.

 

[Honey Bear]

Lmao... the people in here that think they know about cities but they have literally nothing to back their OPINIONS up with.

Some of you guys have gotten lazy with this. I expected better. Haha. It's OK to be jealous.

 

[NotYou]

Top 10 world-class city. When you make irrational statements like this, they usually back fire on you. Try again next time.

...I live in chicago. Its great to visit, mediocre to live in, including the "nice parts."